Bounce your way around

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Two updates on court dates:

(1)  Brian Lucy

The former organist at St. John’s Roman Catholic Church in Gananoque, Ontario (Kingston Archdiocese) will be back in court for continuation of his preliminary hearing:

18 July 2014 :  09:00 am, courtroom #1, continuation of preliminary hearing, Brockville Ontario courthouse (41 Court House Square)

The preliminary hearing was originally scheduled for one day.  It is not uncommon to see a one-day prelim. spill over into another day or two.

I’m not sure what the status is on the child porn charges.  I will check.

Mark your calendars for 18 July.  If you are within driving distance and free to do so, please do try to attend.

And, please, as always, keep the complainant in your prayers.

(2)  Father Gary Hoskins

There is a one-day-preliminary hearing booked for Father Gary Hoskins (yes, unless something has changed in the past few months and despite his 1987 guilty plea, he is still a priest. For a number of years he has been working as a social worker in the Toronto area, but, he is still a priest and has NOT been defrocked. )

16 September 2014: 09:30 am, preliminary hearing (booked for one day), Stephenville, Newfoundland courthouse (35 Alabama Drive)

As above, mark your calendars and please try to attend.  And please keep the complainant in your prayers.

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Hopefully you are following progress on the re-build of theinquiry.ca.  Yes, still a long long way to g0, but bit by bit the information is getting back online.

When I started I was quite convinced I would copy from the original site in order to expedite the process.  I have discovered however as I proceed I just can not do that.  I really must add bits and pieces of information here and there to give further information.  I will continue to do so, and perhaps when it’s all done will go back and round things out even more.

There are now pages for a number of priests Charged, Sued or Accused.   The following have been added:

Father Paul Lapierre

Father Kenneth Martin

Father Donald Scott

Father Hollis Lapierre

Father Gaetoan Deschamps

Father Rene Dube

Father Lucien Luc Meunier

Aslo added is a page for former OPP Detective Inspector Pat Hal

And page for Andre Lavoie who was sexually abused by Catholic school teacher, good friiend of Bishop Proulx and photographer for the diocese Robert Sabourin.  Also posted is Andre’s Victim Impact Statement:  The Poignant Voice of a Victim 

A [age has been added for Martial (Killer) Gagnon.  Gagnon, a close friend of Father Paul Lapierre, was convicted in 1964. There was no jail time.  Gagnon was told to get out of the city – and given two years probation.

A page has been added for James Lewis.  Lewis was sexually abused by ex-priest Richard Hickerson. Lewis  became both a close friend of Hickerson and a molester.  There is more info to be added on the Lewis page.  That will come 🙂

There is a page now for former member of the Cornwall Police, Ron Wilson.  Wislon had a bye on taking the stand.  Very unfortunate for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that he told Project Truth officer Joe Dupuis that there WAS a paedophile ring in Cornwall back in the 60s, but there isn’t one now.  Fathers Paul Lapierre and Don Scott were said to have been under investigation.  Killer Gagnon was convicted.  This information was not followed up upon in any way shape or form, nor was Father Paul Lapierre called to testify at the inquiry to provide further info.

Please bounce your way around theinquiry.ca.  Click every link you come across.  And then go back and click them all again.  And later in the day, do it again!  As I said before, this needs to happen in order for google to start recognizing the material.  Very important.

I have lost track of what I have added, Just click your way around and you will come across the info.

Engouh for now,

Sylvia

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11 Responses to Bounce your way around

  1. Miecul says:

    Happy Canada Day everyone. I hope everyone has a great day. Stay safe.

  2. Deborah Kloos says:

    Can a person ask the judge to make the church pray for victims of abuse every year or does money have to be involved? I would make the Diocese accountable for paying the legal fees. What is it like in court? What do they make victims do? How long would you be off work? How long does it take? Is it worth it?

    • Miecul says:

      Go to the police and report it. They have been afraid of what you would say for sometime now. It was them that should have taken this to the authorities, that’s why they likely let you give communion to the sick hoping you wouldn’t.

      If a crime was committed Deborah, only you can do something about it. By the sounds of your post last year, it’s been building. They’re afraid of what you will do. Maybe others will see your strength and come forward too, that what happened in our case. I wish you the best.

    • JG says:

      Is it worth it?…

      Deborah! Fear and Faith don’t belong in the same sentence, the same paragraph or the same Life! You know between wrong and right…Is it worth it?

      I’ll help you solve your problem if you help to solve mine!… Here’s my problem!!…I know that somewhere there is a young ten year old girl who has offered her sexual services to a man, an uncle, over 60! I don’t know her name, don’t know her address, her mother’s name…I know her father’s name! I know that when the grandmother of this “baby” was told of the sexual offering[sic],the grandmother’s comment was simply that the child was “precocious”???!!! This child’s mother has had multiple partners of the lesser kind and I am told she is very sexually active… Have the stepfathers abused this child????
      …I know the grandmother was abused herself and spends a lot of energy and time to be around children! I know the grandmother has had ” strange” relationships and language in relation to her sexual partners and tendencies…I know that in tragic and meager times she has wanted to lavish gifts on one of her daughters (new car!) when this daughter already owned three(3) other vehicles!!Oh! ….and grandma is very religious…even considered a “Saint” by her congregation!….Unthinkable scenario and a good place to hide, behind Jesus! Am I wasting my time???…
      Deborah, do you think I should bother to notify the authorities and do you think it is “worth it”?…Am I imagining things?
      Deborah, tell me what will happen: will the child protection services believe me? Will they make the effort to find this child? Will that child be taken from her family? Will the grandmother be identified as another abuser?
      Deborah, should I say anything or will I be the one to be embarrassed and go through all this for “nothing”!
      Is it worth it? …or should I go on and forget about this. Is that unknown, never seen, distant unrelated child another “nothing” or is my effort worth “something”?
      I think if you answer my question honestly you will have answered your own!
      If you trust your Faith, the Fear is only the pebble in your shoe!
      So, what do WE do?…
      Is a child worth “something” or “nothing”…
      What are you worth?… in fiction or in reality!
      Are you worth the effort?
      jg

      • Deborah Kloos says:

        I just don’t want to hurt anyone and I don’t know what to expect. Do I have to describe sexual acts with the priest at the court? I am pretty disappointed in the Diocese for saying they won’t remember victims of abuse in a yearly mass and don’t want to carry the Scarlet Letter. It is just not right. I want to fight for moral justice. I don’t want victims of abuse to be forgotten because it is not a media story anymore. I sincerely want the people of the Catholic Church to be accountable for praying for victims of abuse.

        • Miecul says:

          I hear you Deborah, and in a real world with Christ at the center and with everyone respecting everyone else and gas was back to 0.35 cents a gallon, life would be hunky dory. But it’s not, and they will never admit guilt. The more this is talk about the more they try and hush everything up. 99.9% of this comes from the bishops who are told by the cardinals who are told by the whoever is above them, to get this behind them quietly. The more they are reminded about the abuse, the less the trickle of coffers in the Sunday plate. They don’t care about us Deborah. If they did, the Pope would have mandated Masses for the victims in a heartbeat, once a week. Masses are $15.00 each multiply that by how many parishes there are. It might be cheaper somewhere else, but when it gets down to it, this has always been about the $$ and not victims. If nothing has been done by next February, it’s not likely going to happen. It will be 2 years that our new Pope has been in power. They likely dole out just enough to make it look like they did something, but I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting.

  3. Deborah Kloos says:

    I am scared. I don’t know what to expect or what will happen.

    • Miecul says:

      Deborah I don’t know your story and that’s OK. Can you tell me if this priest was ever charged and if he’s still alive or were you talking about a civil suit case and what to expect? I wrote out several paragraphs yesterday answering the questions you poised as best I could, and then didn’t send it. I wasn’t sure which you were talking about Civil or Criminal.

      • Deborah Kloos says:

        The priest passed away. He was never charged. By the time I said anything he was already in his 90’s. The Diocese is who I am really angry at because I have been attending mass everyday for the past 7 years and there has been one abuse case after another. I rarely hear prayer intentions at mass for victims of abuse and it upsets me deeply, being an victim of abuse. I have written several letters to the Diocese requesting them to have a yearly mass for victims of abuse so they would be remembered. I ask them to remember the victims of abuse in prayer intentions. My own parish priest does, but the bishop and his delegate who works with victims of abuse ignore my requests. The bishop’s delegate told me that there would be no masses for victims of abuse. They don’t want to carry the Scarlet Letter. This really upset me. I told him when he goes to Good Friday Service he should remember that Jesus carried the Scarlet Letter for humanity and that victims carry the Scarlet Letter every day. I wrote to Marie Collins from Ireland who Pope Francis appointed to be on the Commission for protection of Minors. I made rosaries for all the Commission members and Pope Francis to pray for victims of abuse and also requested that Pope Francis designate a day where all churches in the world pray for victims of abuse. The Commission supports my request and brought it to Pope Francis. I have not heard from Pope Francis yet. I read he was going to meet with victims and requested to meet him to bring my request to him, but don’t think it will happen. I feel really frustrated. I brought it to the highest level. I feel that the churches pay the lawsuit money out because the law tells them to, but when it comes to moral accountability, I have never seen so much resistance and I honestly don’t understand if they have prayer intentions at mass every day and it is free, why don’t they include victims of abuse? Prayer is free. Shouldn’t the clergy be asking God for healing for all these wounded souls? They are so adamant not to and it disturbs me. I am getting really upset about it. I attend mass and know who the church prays for. They want us to go to confession for our sins yet they neglect to pray for victims of abuse. It is just wrong. I don’t want their money. I want to see the church praying for victims of abuse because it is the right thing to do and it is something they do every day anyway. I believe in forgiveness and doing the right thing. I don’t want to turn people away from God. I wrote to the bishop and told him if I sued the diocese for just the amount to pay the lawyer and the main stipulation was to make them pray for victims of abuse every year and include it in the prayer intentions, the media would have a field day. It would make the Diocese look like fools because they should be happy to pray for victims of abuse. I feel very disappointed in them. I don’t know if it is possible to get a judge to make them accountable to pray for anyone. I wish the pope would just grant my request and then people would never forget victims of abuse again. I know people would think what is the big deal? It is to me, because I believe in asking God for healing and that we need to all pray for healing because there are so many wounded people and it is a tragedy. The power of prayer is so strong. The church thinks that this money they pay out in lawsuits is justification, but no amount of money could ever take away those wounds people experienced. Our only hope is in The Lord.

        • JG says:

          Deborah,
          You have answered all your questions in this last post, starting with “the priest is dead”…. That is what the church is counting on as a second option, historically! Their first option is the death of the victim! Forget criminal action if the perpetrator has passed.
          The rest of your questions are also your answers. I think you see very clearly what the problems are with the church.
          Rest your mind and your heart! You see more clearly than the church ever will. They would have to look up to see you and see as you see and they are only in the habit of looking down on the “children”….
          Don’t trouble yourself anymore. It is no longer in your hands and you have done your part.
          Go for a quiet walk and listen for the Peace which will surely find you and make you smile with boundless Hope…You’re a good person.
          Best wishes and all my prayers for you.
          jg

  4. Sylvia says:

    The only way you can hope to have a judge pressure the diocese to pray for sexual abuse victims Deborah is through the lawsuit. I know you don’t want money, but you can make the prayer for victims part of the settlement – just enough money to pay your lawyer and then the insistence that victims are prayed for once a month, or once a year in the cathedral, or in every parish in the diocese, or whatever your wish is. You won’t be able to get the prayers said in every diocese in Canada – the London Diocese can commit only for itself. But, through the lawsuit you may well be able to get the prayers said in your home diocese of London.

    I know this is very important to you Deborah, and it would be wonderful to see it happen. That is how you can perhaps make it happen. They won’t do something as simple and important as that on their own. For goodness sake you shouldn’t even have to be begging them for prayers for victims – they should be doing it of their own volition.

    Get the lawsuit going Deborah. This is your passion. It seems this is the only way you can see it through.

    There is nothing to be afraid of. Nothing. Your heart is with the victims.

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