I finished part one of Ron Leroux‘ testimony: Cameron’s Point and the Ritual. This section deals exclusively with Ron’s recantations and testimony about what and who he did or did not see the evening he alleges he was sexually abused by Bishop Eugene Larocque who was then a priest (Father Eugene).
The whole thing is a bit of a mess to put it mildly.
Anyway, ….Something I didn’t include but should pass on is Ron’s testimony that after the incident at Cameron’s Point – which would have been somewhere around 1960 or the early 60s – he next saw Larocque was in the late 70s or early 80s when Ron was sponsoring a young girl at her confirmation. The bishop confirming the children was Eugene Larocque.
And the next time Ron says he saw Larocque was towards the latter part of the 80s at Ken Seguin’s. According to Ron Larocque drove a blue ’83 or ’84 Buick Park Avenue. Larocque was introduced to him by both Malcolm MacDonald and Ken Seguin as “Rocky.”
I will carry on with Ron’s testimony. Hopefully I will have another segment ready to post tomorrow. I must say it is arduous work and nigh to impossible to keep things straight without constantly checking and re-checking 🙂 . But, it’s hot and sultry outside so I’ll stay put in air-conditioned comfort and plug along at this until I get it done…
Enough for now,
Sylvia
(cornwall@theinquiry.ca)
“Fishing?” Shall I Take The Bait?
Yes.!!
Sylvia: On your recent “blog” entitled “Amazing”, dated July 09, 2007, you received a “comment” from “Absent Observer”, wherein the writer “wonders” why people once believed Ron Leroux, but do not believe him now. (Hello, “AbsentObserver”. Anyone home?) “AbsentObserver” is familiarly vague and indirect. Fishing??
Who is “AbsentObserver” referring to and what was said? Give examples.
I think many people are evaluating and questioning…., not calling Ron a liar, but, evaluating and questioning, the “massive recanting” Ron Leroux has recently engaged in, which includes criticizing, blaming, Perry Dunlop and Perry’s accompanying lawyer friend. Furthermore, let’s add a little “flavour to the “Dunlop” stew”, like; drunken gatherings for example, implied coercion, obstruction, etc., etc.
See anything strange there, “AbsentObserver”? I mean, do you not even “wonder” about that?
“AbsentObserver” appears to “wonder” some more, questioning “us” like we just don’t get it. “Was he telling the truth in the past and now he’s not,” writes “AbsentObserver”;.…well, “AbsentObserver”, I guess that’s what everyone wants to know, or, was he misleading then and not now, or now, but not then, or, then and now, or, was he telling the truth both times, etc? Have you ever changed your opinion of someone “AbsentObserver?”
Where is it written and declared that Ron Leroux is lying?
We all want the truth disclosed, but, “…can we handle the truth?”
“AbsentObserver” further writes, “If he says he’s now finally telling the truth and wants to set the record straight, why don’t we be believe him?” (HELLO!!)…sounds to me like the “we” is “us” and doesn’t include “Absent Observer”.
Well, “AbsentObserver”, I’ll just bet there are a few others, like you, at the “Weave Shed” too, who wish everyone would just “believe him”, let it lie and “let’s move on”.
“AbsentObserver”, your veiled arrogance and “bait” looks more like a fishing expedition, than ignorance or simple naiveté.
Are you a paralegal working, or, should I say, “fishing” for one of the “Law Firms”?
Now, for the comment “AbsentObserver” may be anticipating.
More telling is: For you members of justice, including local police, the accused, the alleged paedophiles, for you politicians, civil servants, news media, etc., who didn’t believe or care about Ron Leroux before, or for the last ten-plus years, ostracizing him, ridiculing him, labeling him as a “dysfunctional” liar and casting him to the side like a rotten apple; why, today, do you profess his current testimony, to be “proof” of the innocence of many of the alleged paedophiles/clan? Why are you relying so heavily upon it? Because, as you may claim, among other things, “you” haven’t changed your position and Ron Leroux has?
In fact, how was Ron Leroux’s original affidavit managed back “in the beginning”, by Authorities? How was Ron Leroux received by “Project Truth” and more recently, “The Cornwall Public Inquiry”, when he first attempted to contact the Inquiry? What testimony and supporting documents was Ron Leroux prepared to introduce two years ago?
WHY has Ron Leroux recanted so dramatically?….an epiphany?
The problem with the “spiritual awakening” theory is, there are most likely other, similar witnesses and victims, with similar stories. Remember the C.B.C. documentary, “Breach of Trust”? One witness described how they were lined up against the wall and “they” each took a poke. Where are they? Have they recanted yet? They will.
Many people in the community know the facts. Many people in the community know Ron Leroux, from his early childhood. What influences have Ron Leroux had over the past ten-plus years or since “the affidavit” surfaced? What advisors, counselors or similar, have recently began to interact with Ron Leroux? Motives, intentions, $$$$$
“Dysfunctional” people who believe they are helping other “dysfunctional people”, is like sitting on a volcano!! Watch out!!! On the other hand, healthy people, who used to be “dysfunctional” and who are now helping other “dysfunctional” people is, positive.
Is there anyone out there, who has ever conducted interviews with various people, witnesses, victims, accused, etc., from various scenarios? I have.
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The Inquiry” and others know the ambiguities, strategies, counter-strategies, etc. and difficulties, many interviewers utilize and encounter. “The Inquiry” and others are well versed in the “communication skills and strategies” utilized when interviewing people who are unwilling or unable to be effective communicators. “The Inquiry” as well as others, are informed on how witnesses can be open, supportive and complying one minute and totally closed, defiant, rebellious and non-compliant the next.
What “innate” and/or “learned” traits/behaviours/beliefs, etc., in a “dysfunctional” person’s background (i.e. Ron Leroux’s) could be employed to accurately interpret the actions, intentions, interviewing skills or education of a Police Officer (i.e. Perry Dunlop). How did Perry Dunlop originally learn about Ron Leroux or visa versa, subsequently resulting in their interaction?
Finally: IT is as obvious as the nose on my face; I believe, “The Inquiry and The Lawyers” are playing “ignorant”, especially regarding the skills, education, training, experiences and “the profession” Perry Dunlop learned and practiced.
Instead “The Inquiry and The Lawyers” rely on the ignorance of the public to “push” the “hidden agenda”.
The Cornwall Public Inquiry entertains itself, while the greedy, opportunistic hyenas, prowling about the rooms of the Weave Shed, wait to cease the opportunistic moment $$$$$$. Yes $$$$ and programs will be put in the hands of the “dysfunctional” to “help” others. The “Pearheads” will have abandoned ship and washed their hands before…….
I don’t [know?] anyone personally who is at the inquiry and I don’t work for a law firm. I don’t live in Cornwall anymore, but I grew up there and I remember hearing so much talk of this stuff for so many years. I try to read as much as I can now about what’s going on at the inquiry. I don’t think I’ve ever been convinced one way or another about many of the things that have been said. I think our justice system is seriously flawed because I read so much about people who are found guilty of something that I think is a serious crime but they don’t even go to jail. I always thought something was wrong there. I just feel bad for Ron Leroux because if he’s always counted on the support of people who believed his story years ago, I think they’re all going to abandon him now if he says he wasn’t telling the truth back then. If this really is his chance to set the record straight, I hope the same people who stood by him all those years ago don’t leave him by himself now. He needs all the support he can get.
Dear “AbsentObserver” Re: Your last “comment-July 12, 2007 4:34pm.”
I also feel very sad for Ron Leroux. He certainly does not appear to be in good shape, psychologically or physiologically. However, incredibly, his Doctor has given him the “green light”. I of course assert he is being brutally exploited by self-serving and self-promoting, opportunistic, parasites.
Have you ever trusted or supported someone at one time and then as a result of “their” behaviours, “your interactions” or for various other reasons, including maturity, changed your mind about them?
People are supported and trusted because they exhibit “trustworthy” behaviours. As Ron Leroux “came forward” with certain allegations in years past, “particular” people could identify with what he was saying, some people could relate to what he was saying and some people felt empathy or had sympathy….so they supported him.
VERY NORMAL in life.
Now, he is recanting his previous allegations, so obviously and logically, he will lose SOME support from “SOME” of them BUT not ALL of them, BUT, he will gain new “trusting” relationships and new “support” from people supportive of his current position. VERY NORMAL in life, for everyone. Everyone cannot be expected to “follow blindly”; that in itself is “dysfunctional”.
With maturity, education, human/social interactions and experiences,…relationships and beliefs MAY change. VERY NORMAL in life.
“AbsentObserver”, you write, “If this really is his chance to set the record straight….” My question is, ….how can you possibly declare, “If this really is his chance..” HOW DO YOU KNOW this is “really” his chance? HOW DO YOU KNOW? Did God tell him and you this “REALLY IS HIS CHANCE?”
Furthermore how can you “unknowingly of course” assign guilt or shame on “us” when you write you “hope” “we” don’t leave him alone. You vaguely accuse “old supporters” or people with opposing viewpoints that they are “leaving him by himself.”(This is also a successful strategy utilized in power/controlling, abusive, situations by “people” who want a secret, kept a secret. The local news media used it often, in the early “Project Truth” days.) Let’s make it clear, “AbsentObserver”, I am not accusing you of accusing “us”, so to say..
Finally, what convinces you, that you think Ron Leroux is “by himself”? It is my understanding that he has many, new friends, supporters, support groups, etc.
MUST WE blindly and obediently, follow?
I do not agree that Ron Leroux needs all the support he can get. I believe, Ron Leroux needs the appropriate support.
Many “old” supporters are not “current” supporters because, they are very knowledgable of the facts.
You are from Cornwall, you know much more….than you know.
Some comments on what the previous poster wrote …
***“If this really is his chance..” HOW DO YOU KNOW this is “really” his chance? HOW DO YOU KNOW? Did God tell him and you this “REALLY IS HIS CHANCE?”***
My only comment here is that I have no idea what conversations have taken place between Ron and God. Only Ron and God know that. If Ron went to the inquiry and said, in front of everyone, that this is his chance to set the record straight, it’s possible that conversation with God served as the support he needed to finally tell the truth.
***Finally, what convinces you, that you think Ron Leroux is “by himself”? It is my understanding that he has many, new friends, supporters, support groups, etc.***
Transcript …
“I have always felt alone to face the problem. I have always been alone. Guilt and shame for the abuse I received as a boy; guilt and shame for my behaviour, PTSD; loss of childhood; loss of education; isolation; fear and paranoia. I’m a loner.”
***Many “old” supporters are not “current” supporters because, they are very knowledgable of the facts.***
So as long as Ron continues to say the things he said in the past, the “old” supporters will stand by him. But they will not be “current” supporters if he suggests he wasn’t telling the truth in the past.
How sad some people stand beside him when his claims fit into a pro-pedophile clan agenda yet they don’t “currently” support him if he changes his story. I wonder if Ron knows how many people who stood by him and believed him in the past and used him to push forward their clan agenda are now standing away from him, no longer supporting him. When he talked of clans and rituals in the past, the community was split down the middle … one group believed him, the other suggested he was lying. Now his story has changed, and the groups have switched sides. How is one group any better than the other?
At the end of the day, we should stand by someone like Ron no matter what he says. He clearly suffered a great deal as a child and as a young man and deserves our sympathy and understanding. In the past, it was the so-called pedophile clan and their supporters who were pointing a finger at him and saying he was a liar. Now he’s being called a liar by the group of people who stood by him all those years ago.
I’ll say it again, I feel sorry for him. He deserves unflinching support no matter where he is in terms of telling his story.