SunSentinel.com
09 June 2011
By Barbara Hijek
The Sarasota County Sheriff’s Office undercover investigation into indecent activities on Caspersen Beach in Englewood nabbed Rev. Bernard Chojnacki, 36, a priest at St. Charles Borromeo Parish in Port Charlotte, reports The Bradenton Herald.
Chojnacki is accused of grabbing an undercover detective inappropriately, exposing himself and stating his desire to perform a sexual act to the undercover detective on Tuesday afternoon, according to a Sheriff’s Office release.
In December 2009, the Diocese of Venice appointed Father Bernard Chojnacki as Parochial Vicar of St. Charles Borromeo Parish in Port Charlotte. He lists his occupation as teacher and priest, according to the release.
Chojnacki was arrested and charged with exposure of sexual organs and battery. He posted $1,250 bond shortly after being booked into the Sarasota County jail, according to records.
Chojnacki, a native of Poland, was ordained in late 2009 and soon after assigned to the Port Charlotte church.
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Priest Bernard Chojnacki arrested in sex sting at Sarasota’s Caspersen Beach
WTSP.com (Tampa Bay, Florida)
5:29 PM, Jun 8, 2011
Venice, Florida – A priest is the latest person arrested in a ongoing undercover sex sting in a Sarasota County park.
Sarasota Sheriff’s investigators say Father Bernard Chojnacki, 36, tried to solicit sex from an undercover male deputy at Caspersen Beach on Tuesday afternoon.
The park is located at 4100 S. Harbor Drive in Venice. The park has miles of trails that lead to the beach and are often crowded with tourists and families.
Detectives say they field numerous calls from people complaining of “indecent activities” in the park.
The arrest report states that an undercover detective and Chojnacki were both on a wooded trail and exchanged pleasantries and “in general about the area and how beautiful the beach was.”
The undercover detective says he walked with Chojnacki to the end of a wooded trail and then the priest reached out and grabbed the detective’s genitals through his shorts. Chojnacki then offered oral sex, according to the detective.
Chojnacki is charged with Exposure of Sexual Organs and Battery.
The Diocese of Venice says Father Chojnacki has been placed on “administrative leave” and relieved of his duties at St. Charles Borromeo Parish in Port Charlotte.
In a statement, the Diocese stated, “The charges against Father Chojnacki are unsettling. This is a sad time for both the Parish and the Diocese, and matters of this nature are taken very seriously.”
The statement also noted because of Chojnacki’s role as parochial vicar, he had no official teaching assignment with the Parish’s school.
My dear goodness! Barely ordained (2009) and he’s out on the prowl!!
In this day and age really , how did this thing ever slip through. It says so so much about who WE are!
At what point Sylvia, do we as laity have to accept some of the blame as enablers by virtue of the fact that we refuse to acknowledge that we cannot stop the abuse until we definitely and explicitly renounce participation ? Sexual predators thrive and survive on people who give them haven and hope, our church Sylvia is a ‘club’ for such monsters and we are the lower ( necessary and lower) members of the ‘ all male club.’
Whoever this Larry is, male or female, the counselling of us leaving, or not participating in the Church of Jesus Christ, is just plain stupid.
This person is always trying to be out in front, when in fact the person is from Mars.
Fanciful counselling, raging objections, and simplistic solutions are more in line with someone who has delusions of being important.
Larry, are you really saying that I am an enabler because I still attend Mass?
No Sylvia I am not.
As you know I am a Catholic too and being so , I am more and more feeling a sense of responsibility toward victims of clergy abuse because I do support the very institution that refuses to make the necessary changes in order to stop attracting sexual predators. Everyday we hear of more scum crawling out from under the rocks and the decision makers of my church just carry on with business as usual “no problem here, it’s the media, they are the bad ones, they are the ones with an agenda to destroy the catholic church.”
While we are banging our heads against the wall demanding change, victims are being re-victimized as we speak, new ones are being violated and some aren,t even born yet.
I am not suggesting anything by stating the obvious reality which is that this haven for sexual perverts and criminals cannot survive without a laity.
I’m asking Sylvia, at what point do we stop asking for change and instead make a change for the sake of the oppressed – past present and future- I,m asking because I don,t know.
Carrying the weight of the World on your shoulders as a self-appointed Superman must be very tiring. Being so full of yourself should really allow you to rest, because by now you must have corrected everything into your version of the New Worl Order.
Since you call the Roman Catholic Church your Church, how did you let it get so dis-ordered?
Larry, I understand how you feel. A groundswell of honest God, and Christ following faithful need to transmit the message clearly that their faith does not include the sexual, physical, moral and spritual abuse of children or the protection of their brethren offenders by means of using the resources entrusted to them as a result of the actioning of their faith by tithing. This should also include the non-tolerance of reproachable behaviour in the pursuit of the above. I commend my catholic sister(let me tell you how difficult it is for me to pronounce myself catholic as result of these atrocities) for her efforts in making the church more transparent and accountable and having the spiritual strenght to express her faith by attending mass. Humility by a structure that has historically dominated it’s followers is hard to acheive. The Catholic Church has been altered justly by pressures from it’s faithful to change all through it’s development and good that it has. It must evolve from this with respect for the faithfuls message to come clean, clean up an redesign it’s accountability structures. Make priest accountable to church councils, zero tolerance means just that zero tolerance and building on that concept, you put in place accountability policies with clear executive direction on how infraction of that foundation principle should be handled. Remove the handling of the case from close collegues within their diocese and have clear reporting protocols in place to the authorities. Letting go of power is difficult but in fact that is just what needs to occur.
“It is necessary that the weakness of the powerless is transformed into a force capable of announcing justice. For this to happen, a total denouncement of fatalism is necessary. We are transformative beings and not beings for accommodation.”
— Paulo Freire (Pedagogy of the Oppressed)
To never be a victim but to become a transformative survivor.
Kindness to all including to 1 AS and what he sayS
Now we have had the B M, we will all sleep better.
Thank You Michel B. for your kind consideration and a lot of food for thought!
Larry: Why not try to organize a ‘penny strike’? If the faithful started to put one penny in their collection envelope it wouldn’t be long before the message would be clearly felt.
The continuing wave of offenders might warrant such a strike.
Just a thought.
Fr. Tim
(I won’t respond to any comments… it only serves to make Sylvia’s life more difficult in dealing with obtuse comments in my wake. Just wanted to throw in this one suggestion.)
A thought well worth considering Fr. Tim!
Michel B., I read with interest your comments of June 25th. I’ve had similar thoughts over the years and on at least one occasion have approached a local Bishop with the hope of encouraging him to hold some public forums(a) within his diocese to discuss suggestions such as you have made. I received the response that it was indeed a good idea , but the response proved to be a hollow one and the esteemed cleric has long departed our shores, Deo Gratias! I still hold on to hope, after all, I really do believe that it does spring eternal!
Your pragmatic suggestions on how the Church should deal with clerical sexual predators should be among the topics for discussion at such forums(a) in every diocese across Canada , in my view. I don’t know about the rest of Canada, but these discussions with the Catholic community are not taking place in Newfoundland and Labrador. You see, all such problems here ended long ago when we had the Hughes Report and The Winter Commission !
A parting question… can anyone out there tell me if MINOR SEMINARIES still exist in Canada or the US?
I like your idea Tim M.. but instead of money could we not put in a universal message, or a token or a ribbon of some kind that lets the parish, diocese or the Church en gros know of the pew dwellers strong message of non tolerance of abuse of children.. maybe the bit of scripture…like hinder not the children…Matthew 19:14 as Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and … The message of a faith that works can be reciprical…I do appreciate your comments on here and as Sylvia restores my hope for discerning catholics you give me a guarded sense that many individual clerics are very much against what is occuring in their organization. Please have a look at Stanford prison experiment by way of google.. I was tought this as the Zimbardo effect, simply put here, this is when a guard is observed by another guard doing harm to a prisoner yet does noting to stop it.. it may be relevant to your brethren’s concerns. Zimbardo has expanded his psychological theory but I am not sure of the overall concept in his treatise….yet. Newfoundland, thank you for your comments, police, child welfare authorities all have these types of policies in place to protect against the unjust handling of inpropriety and crime within their ranks.. it takes the will of the church to make it happen.. If anyone needs a writter for these types of documents I am for hire. I’m laughing.
Michael,
That passage asking for the the little children come to me …. to me may say, give me the child, I will give you the man. Children should not be classified as Catholic, Jewish, Muslim or any label their parents profuse, just as I would not wish to classify my child as an NDPer, Bloc, Republican or Liberal. Instead, I think the goal should be to inform the children of the history, variety, diversity and distinctions, and let the human being grow and define themselves.
If that were the case, I think Catholics would be a dying breed, but perhaps I am overly optimistic …. certainly this would be a cure to the long suffering abuse of child rape in the institution. But than again, perhaps I am mistaken.
Finally, interested in control experiments, check out the Milgaard experiments and the level or morality off the deep end when put in a position to obey authority.
Larry: I don’t for one moment support those who either prey on the vulnerable, nor those who cover-up for those who do. I know you don’t either. As a Roman Catholic I believe the Church is both human and Divine, with Christ as the head and the Church as the Body. I also believe to the depth of my being “Thou are Peter…” and “Unless you eat my Flesh and drink my Blood.” I will never stop attending Mass. I can’t. They won’t take that away from me. As strange as it may sound to those who have been driven out of the Church, I need and draw strength and solace from the Sacraments. I can not therefore encourage people to leave the Church. However, I fully understand why thousands upon thousands have left.
I am not here as an apologist for the Church. I am well beyond defending the indefensible actions of predatory clergy and those who wilfully cover up on their behalf.
I am tired of and fed up with bishops who do “the right thing” only under duress – kicking and screaming all the way. I am beyond making excuses for them. But, leave the Church to make a point? No. That is a change in my life which I can not make.
I will probably fight to my dying day to expose and purge the Church of predatory clergy in whatever way I can. To be very honest, that thrills me no more than does the knowledge that there are still Father Jack McCann’s, and Father Michael Walshes and Father Ed McNeils out there serving in sanctuaries and hospitals and so on across this country – and scarcely a soul knows. So, as I tell often tell people who ask why I do what I do: I do what I feel I must and can not imagine otherwise. The same holds true for my attendance at Mass.
So, for me, forgoing the latter is a change I personally can not make and would never personally advocate anyone make.
This, after all, is the Church of the humble and holy Cure of Ars, of St. Theresa of Liseux and her ‘little way,’ and Padre Pio, and St. Thomas Aquinas, and Brother Andre, and St. Catherine of Sienna, and the multitudes of martyrs .
So, what kind of change can we make?
Suggestions please…
Father mentioned the penny in the collection plate. Yes. That’s good. But there would have to be a lot of people on board to get the message across. And there would have be a clear message as to why the penny. What’s the message? What do you want from your bishop in your diocese? Do you want a list of ALL clerical molesters who have served in the diocese at ay time, both those who have been convicted, and those who were reported to diocesan officials as predators?
Or, do you want to know if there are any priests currently serving in the diocese who have been convicted and/or reported?
And if either of those are the case, perhaps it would be best to send a letter to the bishop and put the questions to him? Find a few people who share your concerns to co-sign the letter. Then, see how he answers. If he refuses to divulge names, then go with the penny in the collection plate. And tell the bishop why it’s a penny. And let him know it’s a penny until the names are released.
I really believe that here in Canada the pressure needs to go on bishops to release the names of ALL clerical sexual predators who have served in their diocese at any time, both those who are living and those who are deceased, and those who were convicted as well as those whose offences were kept quiet.
Any other thoughts out there?
P.S. Michel – I just read your blog now. And newfoundland dog. Very good. Again, do you think it would be wise to first have the individual bishop held to account by first asking him to do somehting postive (i.e., be transparent), and then, if that falls through, put the message out via collection?
Newfpundlad Dog, I know all the minor seminaries in Ottawa were gone back in about the 70s. Elsewhere as well I think but not 100% sure
Sylvia,
As for thoughts … first allow me to temper this message … we are all human beings living within the 21st C. North America … a very priviledged class, though not without consequences. I suppose I would ask why ‘faith’ is a virture. With my child, I shudder to consider I pump or prime his mind with the notion to take things on faith without evidence, grades, street crossings, etc. and that is what I see in the Catholic Institution, faith. It saddens me to sense quality, sane individuals so involved within the faith to realize they themselves, most here yes, are included in my mind ( I am sorry but I really feel this way and will not apologize for being honest ) contribute to the overall ability for greater harm to be done. If I were to say … I belong to a group of individuals that make charity runs for orphans, support single mother groups, etc. but they happen to KKK, though I do not subscribe to their tenants of belief, it is just a quality, local community organization … I do not think I would tender your compassion. That is how I view this group. Thousands, no … tens of thousands of lives … some not even born yet …. lives were destroyed because an institution based upon the worst of all human endeavours, Faith …. belief without evidence … exists in the purest of minds … mainly US.
sorry, but I am wishing for the day my child may thrive and age within a world where I am not the crazy one, but those that profuse faith in bronze age, mythical, tribal stories that border upon the fancifully and stupid.
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Not a good analogy Jason. Not every priest in the Roman Catholic Church is a sexual predator. That is one of the many travesties in this scandal, specifically that the failure of Church officials to purge the Church of of these predators ensures that all clergy are treated with skepticism.
Jason, take your children to Disney World, and tell them that Donald Duck is their god, and Daisy Duck is the mother of their god.
You are as foolish as humans come, but, sadly, you have many companions. Just go to the Shopping Centres on Sundays. That is church for so many, you will feel at home.
When you said the end, did you mean you will leave here? One can hope that is the way it will be. There are many sites for athiests as you well know. Please give all your wisdom to them.
Suppose you might be right, without the tenants of Catholic faith within my life and my child’s life, we will naturally worship consumerism and television …. totally makes sense. No room left for wonder, awe, spiritualism and compassion once dropping the cloak of faith in the church and it’s preachings. Thanks for the heads up sheep.
`Jason , hope you don’t mind if suggest you do as I do , I don’t bother anymore to read anything the abandoned one has to mutter. His sole motive for blogging here is to relentlessly hurl insult at those he doesn’t agree with. I don’t know the age of this person but according to all indication he is no more than 8 years old and his parents or guardian probably don’t even know he’s on the internet or maybe they don’t care. All I know is that because of the likes of him, good intended people with “different” ideas are deterred from contributing some very valuable input on this site. It’s a shame in my opinion because it promotes stagnation and is certainly an obstruction to the potential for positive growth.
I agree with Sylvia with respect to the fact that the analogy you used is not a good one by comparison.
The challenge you raise though is a sound and valid one and the one with which I grapple which is essentially “ How many members of the institution has to be guilty before we are forced to shift the blame from some members to the institution as a whole?” A fair question and not so easy -especially for those who are active members- . However, for you to take notice that some members actually feel a sense of blame and to seize that as evidence to support your argument is perhaps a little distorted and appears disingenuous although I don’t think intentionally. A father can feel guilty about a crime his son has committed but the fact that he feels guilty would be a very weak premise to support the claim that he actually is.
What a crock !
Sylvia,
I just want to skip over some of the unfortunate troubled water, if I may, and tell the “detective” in you to consider that what we are seeing with church officials, at this time , has been going on for a long time…Obviously you have read the scriptures( I have to admit I haven’t for at least 25 years…except to answer some of my questions,in the last 5-6 months, since coming to your site.) but have you ever questioned how Jesus could have gone from being an educator, essentially, telling us how we should live our lives in generosity, concern and Love for others, to a semi-pagan ,overnight, telling us to eat his flesh and to drink his blood to have eternal life??…Doesn’t that sound a bit strange to you? Don’t you think his message was more likely that we should live our lives in an imitation on his, that we should become as his body and his blood???…Don’t you for one minute consider that the “original promoters”-the “Holy Roman Empire”, then the “Holy Catholic Church” knew and wanted to capitalize on this sweeping new craze…Try to separate man’s intervention into this merchandising opportunity and you may feel the Spirit in Jesus ‘intentions… ?? I have not been to church for over 10-15 years(and likely will not return!) but I assure you that there is little time in my day when I am not in prayer and/or service to my fellow human beings…and that essentially is because of a pledge, renewed several times in my life…for many unexplained “Favours” I don’t even attempt to explain…
You listed a number of the”church’s” saints as a motivation…Essentially their lives were an imitation of Christ’s, a surrendering of their will to a Higher Power…
I would love to be able to read the original words and the context when the “Holy Sacrament” was supposedly instituted…I’ll tender my life in guarantee that those words spoke of imitation, of becoming as He was , as Children and servants to others…
“Do this in memory of me…” be prepared to give your life for one another…
Don’t you think that message would have made more of a change in this world… I think someone saw an opportunity, 2000 years ago, and they are still milking it for all its worth…His Spiritual words were twisted for their pagan patrons! for people 2000 years ago…We should be looking at our “graduation” and here we are still mesmerized , submitted and limited to our lecture books of primary school. He told us to question, that we would find…
Look at the past and you will understand the future and the present. They twist everything now as they have twisted the information, the Truth, from the beginning…
“Sit down, as family, as friends, as brothers and sisters; share the gifts of your lives, be good to one another and remember what I have taught you, to Love and Live as I have explained you should…Then you will be a part of my body, the blood which will flow through your being will be as mine and , My Father in Heaven , will be for you as he is for me. Do this in memory of me and you will find Eternal Life…” Maybe?…
I think his words were written as interpreted by the people of the times, with a lot of the beliefs of the time…
We should turn this page, in more than one way.
Don’t stop questioning …or the earth will be flat again! And Galileo will keep his mouth shut and his ideas for himself!..
WE still don’t know anything. We want to believe in something FANTASTIC, and maybe we should keep it simple. That could be the greatest Miracle of all…
The “churches” brainwashing is very deep! I admit I am somewhat still feeling some withdrawal symptoms, but I will shake the poison out!…
The real Mass is a life long commitment…every day, every hour, every second…in your actions, in your thoughts and in your words…
The Institution has lost or hidden something in the translation, to perpetuate the fraud!
…I have no doubt about that and no doubt about “THAT”…
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JG
Some weekends I do not enter a Catholic church because I am sick to my stomach. Last weekend I was alright. Sometimes I feel I am part of this so call cult that just won’t let me go mentally because I was told from knee high that the Roman Catholic Church is the real thing. Yes, I do questioned & I for one should not be afraid to questioned & challenge myself on this earthly journey.
The book. The World’s Sixteen Crucified Saviors … Christianity before Christ, by Kersey Graves … first published in 1875.
Many sons of gods supposed hung on crosses.
These have all received divine honors, have nearly all been worshiped as Gods, or sons of Gods; were mostly incarnated as Christs, Saviors, Messiahs, or Mediators; not a few of them were reputedly born of virgins; some of them filling a character almost identical with that ascribed by the Christian’s bible to Jesus Christ; many of them like him, are reported crucified; and all of them, taken together, furnish a prototype and parallel for nearly every important incident and wonder-inciting miracle, doctrine and precept recorded in the New Testament, of the Christian’s Savior. Surely, with so many Saviors the world cannot, or should not, be lost.
1. Chrishna of Hindostan.
2. Budha Sakia of India.
3. Salivahana of Bermuda
4. Zulis, or Zhule, also Osiris and Orus, of Egypt.
5. Odin of the Scandinavians.
6. Crite of Chaldea.
7. Zoroaster and Mithra of Persia.
8. Baal and Taut,“the only Begotten of God,” of Phenicia.
9. Indra of Thibet.
10. Bali of Afghanistan.
11. Jao of Nepaul.
12. Wittoa of the Bilingonese.
13. Thammuz of Syria.
14. Atys of Phrygia.
15. Xamolxis of Thrace.
16. Zoar of the Bonzes.
17. Adad of Assyria.
18. Deva Tat,aud Sammonocadam of Siam.
19. Alcides of Thebes.
20. Mikado of the Sintoos.
21. Beddru of Japan.
22. Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillah, of the Druids.
23. Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls.
24. Cadmus of Greece.
25. Hil and Feta of the Mandaites.
26. Gentaut and Quexalcote of Mexico.
27. Universal Monarch of the Sibyls.
28. Ischy of the Island of Formosa.
29. Divine teacher of Plato.
30. Holy One of xaca.
31. Fohi and Tien of China.
32. Adonis, son of the virgin Io of Greece.
33. Ision and Quirinus of Rome.
34. Prometheus of Caucasus.
35. Mohammud, or Mahomet, of Arabia.
I’m not sure what to believe any more about the Catholic Church.
I do want to respect each other beliefs.
That is all I am saying.
Lina
Lina,
Maybe YOU are the real thing! If you believe in that first ,the answers will reach out to you …from the inside. I truly believe in that and in being attentive to what “Proud survivor” in another tread aptly referred to as “The Whisper”. ..Little signs, little waves, little nods from elsewhere…
Regardless, I always find your contributions interesting, never miss one . Questions are always good and the answers are the debatable part… I think we are doing well!
I only wish “the church” was doing the same…
JG
Ah, JG, do you have any diea how much I don’t want to get into these discussions? Not because I don’t want to discuss, but because I just don’t have the time required to commit to answering properly. Perhaps when the Church is purged I will open up to such discussions, but, not now.
No, it doesn’t sound strange to me at all. (“Unless you eat my Flesh…”) I also believe in miracles
If you re-read the lives of the Saints you will find that all had a great love for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and a deep devotion to the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. It’s the cornerstone of our Catholic faith.
Belief in the Real Presence does not at all negate being prepared to give one’s life for another. Again, there are countless examples of saints who gave their lives, and found the strength and will to do so through frequent recourse to the Sacraments. The lives and deaths of many of the martyrs surely are examples of those who willingly gave their lives for love of God, and/or neighbour.
It’s late JG. There is much I could say but I am not here to convince you that you are wrong and I am right. Nor do I want you to convince me that you are right and I am wrong. On the latter, my mind is set. I am a Roman Catholic. Please just let me be that without trying to convince me of the error of my ways, or trying to coax me out of the Church. I won’t leave. You’re wasting your time. You really are.
How be I will allow you to believe as you do, and I will pray for you, and you allow me to believe as I do, and you pray for me?
Can we, at least for now, leave it at that?
I have no desire to convince anyone of anything except to continue asking the questions as I feel that is the only way to get some truth!…The problem has never been about people who have had doubts, Saints of “the church” included, but has probably been with those who absolutely “knew” and stopped questioning…Top of the list, the “infallible Church”, the “infallible Pope”…They wrote the book that keeps telling us how right they are…
Amid this global sexual controversy the Church is trying so hard to smother, it found time and opportunity to promote three Saints or Saints to be… Father Andre in the midst of his congregations controversy about sexual abuse of children…Not to take anything away from Brother Andre but to signal the “crass” and extent the Church will use its “good assets” to distract from its most serious failings…
Mary MacKillop , excommunicated more than likely for reporting sexual abuse of children back in the 1870′s…I wonder what impact this had in the Church in Australia last year, October I believe is when she conveniently “ascended”…into the “churches” “good” book.
John Paul II and the many questions that remain with this quick promotion… only this spring…
The public relations apparatus of the Church is working very hard. They are using “cannons” against our sling shots…
I can’t imagine the feeling of getting communion from George Chojnacki the week before!! …the day before?!…What an abomination!
There are no certainties in this world; only our doubts and questions help us survive and move forward. That is the blessing that has brought us this far. Otherwise, we would still have the Pharisees dictating our morality…or are they?!…
“Our Church” is the religious version of “Holy Hollywood”…Look at what they are selling us…
We only move ahead if we question. HE taught us that as well.
JG
Exactly what is YOUR question? You ramble all over, but, you never come right out and tell us where you go or do not go on a Sunday.
Should that be important, the colour of one’s cloth or method of worship, or is the idea of child rape in a religious institution only for ‘members’ to comment upon?
Sheep,
Always wonder if you have a “goatee”…Sorry, just curious. You sound like that…Anyway, I have many questions , really, about myself and how I treat my wife , my children and people in my care. I question how to become a better human being…For some who speak before thinking and are not seeking anything more than a confrontation to ease their frustration, on a daily basis, for reasons probably unknown to them as well, everything sounds like rambling…
As I told the last priest, in 2002, after he advised me to mind my own business( for asking him if he could bring communion to a sick person !…) and be in Church on Sunday, all the days of the week I treat as Sunday…as though they were my last. I don’t like to make a spectacle of MY prayers…Usually in silence, morning and night…I was born, raised, bred and fed a Catholic, which is what you really want to know., I believe. I have my inner difficulties as well in relation to “My Church”…
When you don’t see eye to eye with a contributor, please read again, again if necessary, and tell yourself you don’t have to fight all and always…
I’m rambling again, sorry!
Now, who is next on your hit list, 1as…
You do ramble as well but you seem to look for the negative.Here’s a question to you: why?
No, I will not reply to anything you write in , say , the next 24 hours!..
Try it. My gift to you.
JG