Landry Sr., priest cases in 'different ballpark': Repa

Cornwall Standard Freeholder

27 June 2008

Posted By TREVOR PRITCHARD, STANDARD-FREEHOLDER

Potential obstruction of justice charges against former police chief Earl Landry Sr. were in a "completely different ballpark" than the 1995 sexual abuse investigation into a Roman Catholic priest, the Cornwall Public Inquiry heard Thursday.

Retired police chief Anthony Repa used that metaphor to explain why the Cornwall Police Service investigated Landry Sr. in 2000 and 2001, while asking the Ontario Provincial Police to handle the allegations against Rev. Charles MacDonald -- despite the fact the service was being sued in both cases.

"Had any of (my officers) come to me and said, 'I am uncomfortable with investigating (Landry Sr.),' it would have gone to another police service," Repa testified.

The CPS began investigating Landry Sr. after being sued by a man known at the inquiry as C-53.

C-53 went to police in 1985 with allegations he had been sexually abused by Landry Sr.'s son, Earl Landry Jr.

The force didn't charge Landry Jr. in 1985, and closed the case after Landry Sr. -- who had retired the year before -- told new chief Claude Shaver his son would not be taking a polygraph.

More complainants came forward over the next decade, and after the CPS reopened their investigation, Landry Jr. confessed in 1997 to sexually abusing five boys. C-53's lawsuit claimed Landry Jr. got off 12years earlier because of his father's influence.

Dallas Lee, an attorney for The Victims Group, suggested Repa's decision not to get another force to investigate Landry Sr. didn't fit with his actions in 1995, when he went to the OPP after John MacDonald came forward.

When John MacDonald testified at the inquiry in December 2006, he said Charles MacDonald had sexually abused him on multiple occasions, including once on a weekend retreat north of Cornwall and another time in the priest's car.

"The distinction between . . . these cases is that when it's a former CPS officer, you want control of it," Lee told Repa.

"And when it's a priest that you don't know anything about, the OPP can have it."

Repa disagreed, saying the OPP had already begun to investigate Charles MacDonald when John MacDonald made his allegations.

Some of John MacDonald's claims would have happened outside CPS jurisdiction, and there was a very different "history" between the two cases, he added.

Charles MacDonald was under investigation for 10 months in 1992 and 1993 by the CPS for allegedly abusing another man, David Silmser.

Silmser named the CPS in a lawsuit after a copy of his statement was leaked to the media.

"I think it's a completely different ballpark," said Repa, comparing the two.

Repa told Lee that although he felt C-53's lawsuit was "fluff," he acted responsibly in launching the investigation.

But based on the force's actions, Lee said there was a risk the public could conclude Cornwall police officers received an "unusual benefit of the doubt" if they were being accused of crimes.

"I can appreciate and understand the perception of whatever people want it to be, sir," Repa replied. "I understand what you're saying - that's not the way it was."

Although the OPP eventually laid charges against Charles MacDonald, they were stayed in 2002 after a judge ruled they had taken too long to come to trial. The now-retired priest has always maintained his innocence.

Landry Sr. was never charged with obstruction. He died in 2007.

Repa was the 18th and likely the final CPS witness to testify at the inquiry, which is probing how institutions handled historical sexual abuse allegations.

Comm. Normand Glaude announced Monday he would rule this week on whether one last CPS witness, Ron Lefebvre, would be excused from testifying for medical reasons. One of the investigations Lefebvre led was the 1985 Landry Jr. case.

Regardless of Glaude's decision, the inquiry is scheduled to resume today with testimony from Rev. Denis Vaillancourt, the first institutional witness for the Alexandria- Cornwall Roman Catholic Diocese.

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Comments on this article

Gee *2Faced* I'm surprised this hasn't been commented on by you and then closed down already, what's up, did your boss think it was wiser for you NOT to post first today as people might get suspicious or are you and your gang going to have another "tech glitch" or "cyber error" or whatever else you clowns do down there other than borrow stories?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By saintpeter-47

Upsetting start to the day...I checked with this paper to see if infact I was a employee and if so were are my pay cheques..Sadly they indicated that I don't work there..So I quess I am back to retirement..David you had my hopes up for a moment..rick

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By 2 sides 2 a story

Oh I see, I guess we already have a "tech glitch" eh *2Faced* it would appear that the format of the comments are different or is it my wise old eyes that are getting old "grasshopper"? Say, do you clowns at the Freeloader think that your paying advertising firms will appreciate the fact that you missed out in putting their "ad" up in the middle of the article. Cute little rectangle and such a pretty red X in the upper left hand corner, now don't go getting too fancy as you've already screwed this one up, was that your doing *2Faced* or are there only "stupids" employed there? Oh now I see, when you push that pretty little red X and ad pops up for STORMONT, DUNDAS AND GLENGARY ALONG WITH INDUSTRY CANADA. Do you think they're going to be impressed that the public can no longer read the ad as it was printed before and now you have to press a red X to see what's behind DOOR #3. I was just curious, that's why I pressed it but I bet if you're keeping a running count which you have the ability to do, you'll find that hardly anybody will press that pretty little red X and now not only do we get the shaft but so will your advertisors when they find out that they paid for an ad that most won't be bother looking at. I mean do I really have to spell it out for you or what but I guess I will and I'll do it quickly. JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT READ EITHER THIS RAG OR ANOTHER WILL WANT TO PUSH THAT CUTE RED X TO READ ####A BLOODY ADVERTISEMENT?####. So it would appear that you at least you spread your "shafting" all around but I betcha your paying advertisors won't be impressed cause I'm still busy wiping tears from my eyes from laughing so hard at such a feeble attempt at "modern technology" especially in this age, feel like you're behind the times or what, and you can't even get THAT right!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By saintpeter-47

Ah, that was a quick change BUT, the old "copy and paste" trick has already been done dooded! TOO LATE for you at the rag though!!!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By saintpeter-47

Ah but "grasshopper" do you really think we'd fall for an attempt at a stupid trick like that, face it *2Faced*, ya got caught and don't lie to me or I'll tell GOD on you again, boy you're getting a lot of bad "tick" marks in GOD'S "Bad Book". At least THAT's something you're good at. Give you A for effort even though it was poorly done. You know, once you step in sh*t, it's hard to shake the smell eh *2Faced* and yeh I know your retort will be something to the effect of "Yeh, you should know all about that eh Peter?"

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By saintpeter-47

Wow what drugs are you on this morning?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By 2 sides 2 a story

NOW I SHALL TAKE A FLIC OF THIS PAGE AND SEND IT TO EVERYBODY I KNOW AND THAT'S A LONG LIST TO SHOW THE RATHER POOR ATTEMPT AT CENSORSHIP ONCE AGAIN BY THIS RAG.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #7 By saintpeter-47

OH, I FORGOT MY MANNERS, HAVE A GOOD DAY AND "MAY GOD BLESS" (borrowed that quote from Klem on the Red Skelton Show) and it's still appropriate especially in the Hole.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By saintpeter-47

By By Peter

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By itinerant

Doesn't anyone find it rather interesting that the first 6 posts were ALL done exactly 3 hours ago and even though I didn't comment on it, I just sat back and watched Post #1 go up and almost immediately Post #2 from "2Faced" was written and this banter between StPeter-47 and 2Faced happened almost one right after another as if one person was sitting there reading the post as it was posted and before it was posted. And what paper did you say you didn't work for there 2Faced and I thank StPeter-47 for bringing THAT to our attention. Gee, I wonder if anyone at the RAG knows anything about "freedom of the press" or does that only apply to you clowns so you can delete, censor, lie and deceive us all. By the way, that was a nice piece of code on that "Server Error" yesterday that you deleted but was re-posted again. Could be interesting to someone who has say 2000 SERVER and the 2 discs to boot, the back door is quite a place to enter as others in this godforsaken place have found for the last few decades.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By booga-booga

Oooooooooooops, seems like the "SERVER ERROR" magically disappeared again so here we go again as I did copy and save it. Don't forget MCSE, Windows 98 lets you use DOS and also don't forget SERVER 2000 and lets look for the "back door" like you have had down pat for decades.

Server Error in '/' Application.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Runtime Error
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.

Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off".

Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By booga-booga

hey booger
Freedom of the press does not include information on false pretenses

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By itinerant

Booger

Freedom of the press does not include information based on false pretenses

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By itinerant

im amazed at how every policeman or policewomen,sgts chiefs deputy chiefs,crown attornays etc.did everything they possible could to bring these abusers to face justice.and how every abuser who says there inocent of these crimes are standing up and demanding justice and there good names cleared up of any wrong doing.and knowbody new knowbody or socialized with them.hurray for justice

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By luckyred

Kudos St. Pete or booga booga or whatever your name is. The tampering on this website should certainly be reported!!!

And I take it you saved all the screen shots???

They've been outed!!!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #15 By RealityChecker

Thank you RealityChecker and yes I have taken the screen shots and if somebody can tell me who to report this tampering to other than the censors of this rag, I'd be absolutely delighted to tie into that one. I talked with the "Big Guy" and he told me that he was a little busy and that he'd appreciate it if I did both jobs. Keeper of the "pearly gates" up there and keeper of the truth that this rag knows little about. Anyway, good old Lucifer and I had a chat and both he and his pitch-fork are ready when the time comes to really "fork" those that deserve it and I really don't know if he has enough room for around half the city of CornHole (to borrow a quote!). And now I shall take leave of this rag and watch the proverbial excretement hit the fan, eh *2Faced*, the Freeloader must be really proud of your stupidity or is that why they hired you?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #16 By saintpeter-47

May as well start right at the top of Osprey Media

http://ospreymedialp.com/corporate/Default.asp?section=president

Don't forget to send it to the inquiry too.

Your buddies at Queen's Park and all of the MPP's

Ontario Press Council.
Canadian Association of Journalists (CAJ)
Canadian Public Relations Society Inc. (CPRS)
Public Affairs Association of Canada (PAAC)
Canadian Newspaper Association
That'a all I think of off the top of my head.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #17 By RealityChecker

Oh.....forgot someone.

Mary Lynn Young.

She was called as an expert in media analysis at the Inquiry. She'd probably be interested. She's currently the director of the Graduate School of Journalism at the University of British Columbia.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #18 By RealityChecker

I've seen what you can do - articulate it well!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #19 By RealityChecker

Core Values of Osprey Media

Honesty

Integrity

Respect

Trust

Empowerment

Fun

.....I think there's a few people at the Cornwall Standard Freeholder who need to review the company's core values so I posted it for their information.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #20 By RealityChecker

all i have to say about the reporters who are reporting whats being said down at the inquirey.i have brought my complaints to the inquirey and to the two reporters that have been covering testimonys.its been a year since the reporter mislead the public on my testimony yous chose to forget about it but i have not.i will now go with my second option.which were given to me last year.mr.englemans option has found deaf ears.i will now proceed with mr.lee,s option.thankyou marc latour{ps.you do nobody any justice with these kind of mistakes]

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #21 By luckyred

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #22 By itinerant,

From my perspective regarding this matter, I would suggest no further disclosures by anyone about this matter online. However, I also believe, all contributors have their right to do as they wish.

I urge anyone intending to file a “complaint”, as implied by some contributors, to avoid replying to questions such as the one posed in “post#22” of the June 27, 2008 article,
i.e.: “what were we misled about?”

Or, if you have noticed some regular contributors, who no longer contribute; note them, with their last comments.

As has unfolded in many “articles” posted, it is my opinion “post#22”, has nothing to do with commenting on the “story”, but rather, attempts to “interrogate” contributors, control, influence and even, intimidate some contributors.

I urge contributors to be careful.

For me, this is simply another “log, thrown onto the pile”. I have nothing to fear and nothing to hide.Unfortunate, isn’t it, “the lengths people have gone. Desperate people, places and things, will take desperate measures.” Be calm people, but careful.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #23 By JAMES "SPEAK OUT",

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #24 By itinerant

Wait maybe you prefer tossing out conspiracy theories and misleading people into a sense of insecurity a better thing to talk about.

People like yourself and others that post information not all are privy to could be considered hackers and a threat. That my friend is illegal and perhaps it is you we should be concerned aboutDude or dudette I like how you think but like I said before freedom of the press and freedom of speech should have some factual basis Otherwise it is just tabloid.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #25 By itinerant,

 James..When it comes to trying to intimidate..For some reason you are high on my list, In saying that is our future coffee date cancelled? I guess I am a worker for this paper and not sure if we get breaks. I will ask my Boss..I just need to find out who that is..

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #26 By 2 sides 2 a story,  

Anyone figure out yet "WHO" it is that's doing the hacking????

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #27 By RealityChecker,

Hey *2Faced*, thanks for confirming the fact that you do TRY TO ITIMIDATE, that too might well be handy for the future and your rag and while were at it, why don't you put me right on TOP of your list to intimidate and as a worker for this rag and we do know what your position is, I'd love to take you up on your offer for that "future coffee date", got the balls?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #28 By saintpeter-47,

saintpeter-47..I am afraid that a coffee may put you totaly over the edge.
Besides I am to busy at the paper for the time off..But I need your help please..What is the address and what are my hours..Would not like my new job and be late..Oh and because you know everything where can I park my wheelchair scooter..Is there a fee? What door has a handicap entrance?
Oh And being at the top of my list..no Sir..I find your comments more comical that anything..you give me my daily laugh..Have a great weekend!!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #29 By 2 sides 2 a story,

Call me what you want - call me some crack pot - tell me I have a foil hat on. I've heard it all so it's no big deal and I don't take the insults personally - nothing surprises me anymore.

I've done a heck of a lot of reading and reviewing over the past while.

2 sides 2 a story???

Are you by chance a former police chief???

Just asking.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #30 By RealityChecker,

RealityChecker..well give me a chance and I will scoot over to 340 pitt street and see if my picture is hanging on the wall..I will keep you advised.
Oh while I am out I may as well stop at the paper...I still have yet to find my desk yet..Thanks for the morning chuckle..

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #31 By 2 sides 2 a story

"2sides", my invitation extended to you several weeks ago, to meet in Cornwall for a coffee still stands. I will be in Cornwall for a few days in a couple of weeks. Now, If you know who I am, then you must know how to contact me or contact someone I know in Cornwall. Get me a tel # and we can mutually agree on where to meet or we can post on this site. Please no arbitrary decision on where to me.
In the mean time; if you wish to, would you be so kind as to respond to post# 30...your choice.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #32 By James "SPEAK OUT",

Hi James..First I believe I never indicated that I new you..However I did mention that you lived And I generalized west of the city..Not sure were I learned that..Second I responded to post 30 in my post 31//

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #33 By 2 sides 2 a story,

Well then...let me ask this...

WHO would have the knowledge, skills, capabilities to hack onto this site? WHO has the computer know-how to do that and come in thru the back door? It's a known fact this site is being hacked - determined by a few astute posters the other morning.

So you tell me WHO is doing it, what the motivation might be and Who has the know-how to hack onto a media comments thread.

....and why would the the Freeholder allow something like that unless of course the hacker has "friends" in the right places.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #34 By RealityChecker

RealityChecker..When it comes to knowledge, skills, capabilities..pc's for Dummies..that was my teacher. I don't even have a printer..that works..Just to let you know I do not have one contact at the paper nor am I a policeman..

I am a retired old fart that get angry sometimes at the bashing about Cornwall..The other site that I have referances has a wealth of information but my opinion is that is way far one sided (my opinion)I would love to see more "2 sides 2 a story" no pun intended..When it comes to hacking or back doors??? But Booga-Booga gave referances who to contact..not sure if that helped..trying to answer all your questions..when i post i somtimes press the refresh button and there are replys somtimes withen a minute so i reply right back.So maybe thats what happened cant explain it that well..

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #35 By 2 sides 2 a story

Hey *2Faced*, there is no fee, I'll treat but as for the ability for you to find handicap entrance, there shouldn't be any difficulty for those who are Mentally Handicapped getting in any doorway, that is if anyone in their right mind would let you in. Like I said, I'll take you up on that coffee.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #36 By saintpeter-47

I like a little bit of coffee with my cream and sugar - who's buying?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #37 By RealityChecker,

well I tried

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #38 By 2 sides 2 a story,

"Well I tried" and just what was it that you "tried" *2Faced*? As for James and RealityChecker, if we could just get *2Faced* to agree I'd pay for EVERYONE and I'd even pay for a great meal. C'mon *2Faced* I'd really LOVE to meet you whether it's with company (your boy-friend Itinerant would be nice!) or not but hey, just give us the time and the place and if nothing else I will see you but, will you see me, that's the question? Anyone else care to join in rather than hanging around this rag behind the anononymity of your monitor, or will it be like what's been happening for the past few decades where nobody or very few had the parts to speak up and protect the poor abused kids of the past. "NOTHING AS BLIND AS A MAN WHO WON'T SEE!!!!"

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #39 By saintpeter-47,

saintpeter-47 I remember very well your comment about coming to Cornwall..As we could not pay you enough to come here..Why your change of heart..I will coninue to follow these comment threads and watch you continue to make a fool of yourself. I would suggest David you spend time on your own problems.Perhaps thats why it has taken your whole life and you are still no-were..get my point Armagedon..woops sorry saintpeter-47..geeeze i am not typing someone has contol a hacker is in my keyboard..dave what do i do now..

 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #41 By RealityChecker,

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #42 By saintpeter-47,

Sorry RealityChecker,I have not seen signs of hacking..To be honest with you not sure what to look for..You guys posted some screens but I did not get them..

saintpeter-47..you continue to insult me and slander me .. Well *2Faced*,
yet you want to dine me and a group of four..You also slander others Well *2Faced*,(your boy-friend Itinerant would be nice!)ONCE again you look like a FOOL..

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #43 By 2 sides 2 a story,

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #44 By saintpeter-47,

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #45 By RealityChecker

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #46 By saintpeter-47,

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #47 By saintpeter-47,

Its time to un-wind David..Perhaps Nascar Racing would be good for you..They drive counter clock-wise..

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #48 By 2 sides 2 a story, 

Well *2Faced*, just how do you go about un-winding a David? And while were at it, perhaps Nascar Racing would be a perfect fit for CornHole as not only do the cars go in the wrong direction (counter-clock-wise)but CornHole has been going in the wrong direction for the last several decades and is STILL stuck in a "time warp" going in the wrong direction. And just wondering about those drugs that you were encouraging people to use you "pusher" you or did you get off with a BJ?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #49 By saintpeter-47

And just as a "prelude" to all of you in CornHole, HAPPY JULY 4TH as those that come over from the States just want to breaze through CornHole without stopping on their way to more civilized locales as they too don't want to be dirtied by the mess in CornHole! I hear some of them are even bringing their own form of protection, namely corks to prevent insertions and chastity belts that protect the back end.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #50 By booga-booga

Well, well, well, Boogs, it's you again, welcome back and a "HAPPY 4th OF JULY" to you too. I haven't noticed your "bud" intinerant on here lately, did he get kicked off for saying offensive stuff or just ramblin on about dumb stuff and nothing else. Boy oh boy, I don't know who makes those "corks" or "back-end Chastity Belts" but I betcha there some towns or cities who would love to "corner the market" on them and I won't mention anyplace like CornHole as "nothing happened" there and every thing is just "hunky dorry", just ask the victims! I guess the good citizens of CornHole thought it was rather a "bummer" that the holiday was on a Tuesday instead of getting a long weekend. "Bummer", "CornHole", what a combo unless you can remember why they are so synonymous with one another, eh?(I'm picking up that Canuck accent, eh?).

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #51 By saintpeter-47

God, St. Petie, nice to see you put those two A-Holes back in line with your comments on Post #47 in which they yap about telling people to take drugs (2Faced) and hiding behind fake names and all that crap and slander, intimidate others (&brag about it!) and insults but when you do like you say, they are all NOTHINGS except a name they made up and lawsuits don't quite work that way. Not only that, those two idiots haven't figured out that anyone who suffers from PTSD or Depression or both would make a mockery of courts time especially when those illnesses go back years. They also still haven't figured out that even with medicine and medical help, they're still screwed and find me a judge who would even listen to those two clowns unless it's the Freeloader being pressured and it was the Freeloader who ALONE allowed it all to happen. Nice going and say a few good words to the "Big Guy" for me will you. By the way, did you notice your good "Bud" itinierant babbled on about how he was responsible for getting Armegedon kicked out because he wrote in or phoned in or just talked to his boss and "boom" Armegedon's out on his ANUS! So now that we have figured out who some of the bad guys are who I would allude DO HAVE CONNECTIONS with the rag as itinerant let the cat out of the bag and 2Faced did as well. Most on this thread have that figured out but, I'll find a way to check out a whole bunch of things, sorta "under the table" you might say, as I know a bunch of people who do know a LOT about the workings of computers, back doors, DOS,s, worms, trojans and who knows what else CornHole has up their sleeves as it's their own citizens who know this stuff! God this is fun, I miss RANT, he's such a sucker and 2Faced ain't too far behind him or visa-versa! Those two clowns are part of the solution, THEY ARE IN FACT, PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!!!! SO BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #52 By booga-booga

By the way, there is absolutely NOTHING SUSPICIOUS AT ALL about the announcement made by Glaude in regards to Lefebvre and I quote:*****"Comm. Normand Glaude announced Monday he would rule this week on whether one last CPS witness, Ron Lefebvre, would be excused from testifying for medical reasons"*****. One of the investigations Lefebvre led was the 1985 Landry Jr. case." I betcha most of those involved in the alleged sexual abuse of kids could use the same excuse for almost anything and yet the victims who really do have medical reasons don't get the same considerations. If this exemption happens, they might as well just sh*t-can this whole Inquiry as if they shouldn't have done so already. God, the poor kids and then this, is there NO MERCY for these kids or is everybody out to cover their asses and the hell with the victims. Flush CornHole down the biggest sh*tter in the world, the St. Lawrence River but I'd hate to be responsible for the deaths of lake trout, salmon, bows and named after CornHole, those fish called SUCKERS!!!!

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #53 By booga-booga,