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Another 30 days in jail for Dunlop  

Cornwall Standard Freeholder

04  October 2008

 

Posted By MEGAN HARRISON

 

Former Cornwall police officer Perry Dunlop has been sentenced to another 30 days behind bars for a criminal contempt of court charge stemming from his refusal to testify at the Cornwall Public Inquiry.

 

Dunlop was greeted at the Toronto court Wednesday by a group of supporters led by his wife, Helen, who flew in from the couple's Duncan, B. C. home to attend the sentencing. Dunlop represented himself in court.

 

The Crown had been seeking a further three to six months in prison, whereas Dunlop, who is just finishing a six-month sentence for a civil contempt of court charge, asked to be released immediately.

 "We cannot ignore the seriousness of this offence. He flagrantly and publicly refused the (divisional) court's order," said Madam Justice Katherine Swinton as she passed the sentence.

"Citizens cannot ignore laws and court orders at their whim because in their mind it is the right thing to do."

 

Last October, Dunlop disregarded a court order to appear at the inquiry, which is looking into the institutional response to allegations of a sex abuse ring in Cornwall involving prominent members of the community, including police, priests, and civic leaders.

 

Dunlop conducted his own investigation into the alleged ring in the early 1990s which eventually saw the OPP lay 114 charges against 15 men. Only one was ever convicted, and police claimed they found no evidence of a pedophile ring.

 

Dunlop has said repeatedly that he has lost faith in the Cornwall Police Service and the provincial justice system, which is why he left the city and refused to testify at the inquiry.

 

David Humphrey, a prominent defence lawyer hired by the Crown for the sentencing, said he found the judge's decision "eminently fair and reasoned," and said he hoped Dunlop "will get on with his life."

 

Peter Engelmann, lead commission council for the Cornwall Public Inquiry, echoed Humphrey's words, adding that as far as he was concerned, the matter is closed, and they will not be seeking any more charges.

 

"After Mr. Dunlop serves this 30-day sentence, we are free to summons him again, but that is not our intention," Engelmann said. 

 

"He clearly doesn't want to testify here, and he has his reasons. It's unfortunate, the whole thing has been unfortunate. He's spent time away from his family, he's been incarcerated, but that was his doing, and though we would have loved to have had him here to testify . . . he decided he didn't want to do that, so at the end of the day it seems we will not have his perspective."

 

Engelmann also agreed that the sentence was fair, saying the consequences of Dunlop's refusal to testify has set an important precedent for these kinds of investigations.

 

"Initially, we had concerns about the flagrant disregard of this summons, and the impact that might have with other witnesses," he said.

 

"But I think that now that people know that there's a possible finding of civil contempt and some jail time involved, that has an impact, and not just on our inquiry, but on other inquiries."

 

Engelmann added that since the charges were filed against Dunlop for his refusal to testify, every subsequent court order has been obeyed.

 

(With Sun Media files)

 Article ID# 1184391  


Comments


Did Perry help the courts?

Engelmann added that since the charges were filed against Dunlop for his refusal to testify, every subsequent court order has been obeyed. "But I think that now that people know that there's a possible finding of civil contempt and some jail time involved, that has an impact, and not just on our inquiry, but on other inquiries."

Its funny how things backfire..8 months to improve our legal system vs Maybe 2 weeks on the stand... 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By 2 sides 2 a story,

FRAME THIS..... "After Mr. Dunlop serves this 30-day sentence, we are free to summons him again, but that is not our intention," Engelmann said." Once a LIAR always a LIAR!!!! 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By RealityChecker

Maybe Dunlop's problem is that right now, he is a hero but if he takes the stand and his testimony is cross examined, it may all fall apart and it could be shown that just maybe he had overstepped his bounds with his "investigation". This whole affair has it's problems, but his testimony had holes in it too. He is not above the law. He had an opportunity (and still does) to shine some light on these sorrid procedings but he chose to read a statement and refusing cross examination (rendering his statement useless). If anyone had any power to make a real difference in these procedings, it was (is) him. If he was truly out for justice for the victims or if he was sincerely fighting to prevent this from happening again, he would still be fighting. He has answers to some pretty big questions. His choice to not answer is a slap in the face of anyone who has gone through some real hardship (aka victims of abuse). Cowardice does not equal martyrdom. It is a true shame that everyone has suffered so much (that includes Mr Dunlop's family and friends). I am not saying that there was no cover up. I am not saying that Mr Dunlop is a bad man. I'm saying I think he should take the stand. This inquiry needs him and so do the victims. Turning his back on them will be (and has always been) his choice. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By clive horace,

clive horace..You are going to get a lot of people who disagree..

However I could have not said it better..

Good comment!!! 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By 2 sides 2 a story

When Perry gets free in 30 days..The show will be over..Mark my words all the threads will dye down and we can move forward,except for the die hards who have nothing else to do...EH ROGER DODGER... 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By 2 sides 2 a story

 Well written Clive and so true. Welcome to the ranks of the evil people. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By itinerant

Reality guy, Would you quote so many articles if the roles were reversed with Dunlop? What if he was a criminal and refused to testify? What soapbox would you be on then?All he shows now is cowardice and no commitment to the victims. He reported it big deal, anyone can do that even a citizen can investigate and report. Perry had the victims re live their horrors with no help or support. Sorry by no means is he a hero 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #7 By itinerant,

HA! HA! HA!!!!!

 

What planet do you live on Itinerant.

 And please treat a LADY with some respect!!! 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By RealityChecker,

Well, it keeps telling me I am not currently logged in. I keep trying to log in so I will send this and see what happens. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By marieangel,

I am so ashamed here I can't believe it!! All you people who don't believe in Perry Dunlop's reason for doing what he did, are all just trying to cover up again. I have been sexually abused by many people in Cornwall including the priests, my father and uncles and I am saying that Perry is telling the truth when he comments on the system and what they are trying to do! It just upsets me sooooo much to find that a man like Perry can be sentenced to so much time in jail WHEN MY FATHER GOT LESS TIME IN JAIL FOR DOING HORRID THINGS TO ME AND THE PRIESTS GOT AWAY WITH WHAT THEY DID!!!!!! I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING IT IN CORNWALL!!! IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH!! IF ANYONE OF YOU THINKS THAT PERRY IS DOING SOMETHING BAD FOR THE VICTIMS " DON'T PUT ME IN THAT CATEGORY!!" I have followed the Inquiry and know why Perry has not testified, and tell me, have you ever heard of FREEDOM OF SPEACH?? Why was he ever sent to jail when it was only an Inquiry? Why was MY father not sent to jail longer then 2 weeks when he was suppose to get 6 months ( and that was a slap on the hand )? Who is Cornwall protecting and why are innocent people being sent to jail?? Can anyone answer these questions for me??
check out my website and leave me a message! http:marieangelfreedom.blogspot.com 
 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By marieangel,

 2 sides 2 a story you can kiss my behind and keep your blinders on 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By dodger

 as for Perry Dunlop it took great courage for him to do what he did I don't think one person here who had negative to say about him would have even had the courage to do one iota of what Perry did. To all the naysayers keep your heads buried in the sand and hope that this will all go away quietly which is how the pedophiles the church and all the ones that bungled their investigations want. Why was Bishop Larocque never arrested for aiding and abetting a crime by bringing a known convicted pedopile to be a priest in his diocese and for misleading everyone. Shake your heads folks some very powerful people in charge were threatened by the knowledge of pedophiles in Cornwall. And by the way you would not know what a hero was if the man rescued you himself from the jaws of death you are too blinded by what the church and the officials want you to believe. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By dodger

 Never said anyone who states their opinions in here are evil. Just open your eyes to what has gone on and get out of denial that things did happen and yes if it was not for Perry Dunlops courage and investigations none of this stuff would have come to light it would still be a hidden secret that a few powerful people knew about children would still be in great danger in the presence of these people. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By dodger

 You are so true "dodger" I have to mention to, that the other Bishop yesterday testified that he wouldn't and didn't feel responsible for what other priests did. So with this comment he made, I can only say any appology he made ment NOTHING, what would he be appoligizing for if he doesn't feel responsible for the other priests??? Isn't it his job for making sure other priests don't do bad things and if they did, shouldn't he be doing something about it?? Please correct me if I am wrong. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By marieangel

Nobody could ever convince me that there is no pedophile problem in Cornwall. I am a baby boomer and I saw so much first hand way back in the 50's and 60's era and saw what happened at times when we used to have to walk to church on the first friday of the month. I remember some boys in my class (2 that I can remember now) just couldn't enter the church and would pass out before entering. They raised a fuss before passing out and I knew then that they were abused. I remember a girl when I was 9 years old who was sexually abused by her father. There was a wonderful priest at our church and he was from the US and then I learned that he was a sex abuser on the alter boys and others and the church sent him back to the US and this happened back in 1960 and before.


When I read about Perry Dunlop having to serve 30 days more in jail I started to cry and I am feeling mighty bad just now. I just made a spit and I said that is on the judge and anyone who sends Perry Dunlop to jail and it is a place that he should never have been.


As for not testifying I would do the same thing as Perry Dunlop. People don't realize the power of the church and what is going on. If people knew what is going on in this world of so much evil going on you would all get up and revolt. These men they call priests are pedophiles and homosexuals and to the highest people in the church. I have left the church and will never go back in again as long as I live. I have nothing against God and I truly believe in God but no longer the Catholic church. I have seen and heard so much and so many people in Cornwall know nothing and I wish to God that people were a lot more educated about world affairs and what is going on here in Canada and the whole of North America. People go out and read and see the world to know what is really going on. Perry Dunlop and his family are in my prayers and best wishes. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #15 By jules10003

I wanted to add another thing this witch trial should never have been held in Cornwall nor have someone who is related to another pedophile and from the Cornwall area. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #16 By jules10003

 You are soooo true jules10003:) It felt so good to hear your words and I could have not said it better myself:) Thank you so much for letting other people know the truth about Cornwall. I have tears running down my face now because of the words in which you speak. So much sadness has happened in that town. I am 43 and I left Cornwall when I was 21 to get away from all my abusers, it was the best thing I did for myself. I was able to get stronger and away from their manipulating and brainwashing ways. I know longer can enter a Catholic Church, I even have a hard time entering any church, it brings back to many memmories for me. I believe in God and I know that God is LOVE, I feel that he will give justice to these people who are suppose to be representing his words and teachings. I have to think and know that there will be justice in the end, because I know that Cornwall is certainly not doing that for us victims ( survivors ) I want to thank you for making me feel better. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #17 By marieangel

Nobody here has ever denied the crimes were never committed but there is question as to Dunlop’s credibility now.

The only consistency with Perry in this whole situation is his running an investigation behind closed doors and now when it comes time to stand up for his investigation he once again hides behind closed doors.  Sorry Perry but you are not looking good right about now 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #18 By itinerant,

Perry were you not a member of the youth group that ran at St Columban's Church. That ran about the same time this Silmser guy was suppose to have been an altar boy.  

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #19 By itinerant

Dear Brigette and Jim...Why does your web-sight indicate that Perry should be in jail by 66%..is that what your readers feel or is that your feelings? 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #20 By 2 sides 2 a story

lets see if my posting will be posted.after this message while they let me sign in.good luck perry 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #21 By luckyred,

 2 Sides, which site is that posted on? 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #22 By itinerant

ok now,since they let me post my good luck to perry.i can understand why perry dunlop could care less for this so called inquirey.at the very begining of this inquirey i to wanted nothing to do with it.but the inquireys investagaters and there lawyer convince me that my case was very inportant to this inquirey ,that sgt jeff carol of the cornwall police started his investagation right but went very wrong some where.but my concern wasn<t sgt.carol i truely thought he did his job right at the time.But my abuser GILF GREGGAIN and letting him go free.alex{the investagater told me something would be done about greggain but didnt know what.so i agreed to particapate.But first they had to vidio tape me talking about my abuse all over again.this because i was told they asked cornwall police for my tapes BUT THEY WERE LOST.no where to be found.it was hard but to bring my abuser to justice,i had know problem doing this again.i can still remeber alex saying to me when my taping of the abuse and details of what happened where over that it was the same story i gave jeff carol.and my reply was why wouldn,t it be i lived it.{but then again how would he know the tapes were supposed to be lost}but anyway i agreed to take the stand even with there mixed up events i complained about the many mistakes but took the stand anyway.they have what happened to me at the hands of gilf greggain and the events before,during,and after the abuse,like i didnt know if my dad took me home when he found me or took me to the school.and theres so much more,and to you mr.jeff carol me and you know what i told you dont we.you did the right thing perry dunlop i wish i wasnt so blind and took your stance.again good luck.and enjoy your freedom when your freed. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #23 By luckyred,

 First to 2sides2astory, it is DEFINITIVELY NOT MY FEELINGS, and I am not surprized that the percentage is at that, because unfortunately some of the readers that have been on there were some people I know of from Cornwall who are definitively PERPETRATORS. I had decided to keep my website open to all comments so everyone can see the truth as it's happening, I don't first read the comments then decide to put it out there. You would know how I felt about Perry Dunlop if you would have read on. And to itinerant, Perry didn't decide to investigate on his own till the CAS and police decided not to do anything! Perry will not be forgotten and my heart goes out to him and his family! I wish he was around when I was getting abused, then maybe something then might have stopped my abusers from doing the things they did to me.

I will put my website on here again because I have nothing to hide and the truth has to come out!! I have no problem to tell people what happened and what I saw when I was living in Cornwall for 21 years!!! http://marieangelfreedom.blogspot.com I welcome anyone who wishes to leave a comment and I will return it freely:)

To Luckyred:) I am very sorry that you had to go through what you did and if there is anything that you wanted to talk about please go to my web and leave a message or comment:)There are people like you that I really feel sorry for because of what this Inquiry has done to you and other victims. We were really miss lead in this Inquiry. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #24 By marieangel,

 Just a comment here to 2sides2astory, I find it odd your name, because there is 2 sides to a story. The TRUTH and the ones that are trying to hide it!! 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #25 By marieangel,   

Right bang on marieangel I think you hit the nail right on the head! 

 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #26 By dodger,


Isn't that odd, this is twice now today that my computer went crazy on me just like that? Makes you wonder sometimes, it's odd though all the websites (5) that I had on here shut down but this one, how is that? Maybe I'm just on a conspiracy trip:)

 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #27 By marieangel,

Boy, I've been out of town. I see the idiots "2sides" and "itinerant" are showing themselves on all the posts..HA!! LOL!! Desperate, desperate, desperate, people....and all after Dunlop..ha!!LOL!!! For months now, you two...avoid the facts of the inquiry and attempt to intimidate writers on this site. I see you are on other sites, spewing your desperation....your "fears".

PEOPLE, if only you could review their postings over the past several months. I mean, these guys could be counsel for the accused. "2sides" is a misnomer and feeble attempt to purport "fairness". THESE guys are obviously desperate morons, "put up to spread their sickness";.a.k.a. counsel for the accused. Enough is enough!! Ha!! LOL!! The time is near!!  Perry, as you know, recently, several prominent personalities have deliberated..you have NEVER had so much very important support...they are saying "enough is enough." They are saying, "how could 50 million be spent, over so long" and the Inquiry only be able to say, Dunlop is the only one who can save it or break it." They are saying, has no other evidence been given? They are saying, "Dunlop should have been overlooked or discharged for medical reasons, whether Dunlop gave a note or not."

Commissioner Glaude should have ordered a review of medical records and entertained Dr's opinions, etc.....Gee, what would the Inquiry have done then? Ha!! "2sides" and "Itinerant", as evidenced by your many posts over the past few months, as I see it, you are both pathetic and ever more desperate examples of what has suppressed the people of Cornwall for years and made it the unfortunate mess it is today. You are what is wrong about Cornwall. The truth will be told by many. Breaking The Silence is not easy, but we will "break the silence". Oh Perry, see you for steaks on the 4th and we will get the "show on the road" with the victims, who are ready and willing to sound the horns!! 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #28 By JAMES "SPEAK OUT",

marieangel..Thanks for the clarification..Some Websites screen comments before posting.
Good morning Mr James..
 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #29 By 2 sides 2 a story,

James/Marie Marie where is your webpage? Before you or Jimbo get into the fact the Police services and Children’s aid did nothing, remember we are not discussing their wrong doing, but the fact that Perry initiated this whole scenario. Marie first let me clarify that yes Perry did the right thing in the beginning however; Marie you claim Perry did not start this investigation, yet in your post it states and I quote ”Perry didn't decide to investigate on his own till the CAS and police decided not to do anything!” At that point a decision was made by Perry to begin a personal investigation after his initial information was potentially ignored. At that point yes he did start all of this. As Perry gathered information he learned all too well the magnitude of what was to come. If I am wrong, then why did he go to so many lengths with his information? He even had files submitted to Gary Guzzo then MPP Now the people he said he could help or misled are left to fend for themselves reliving their abuse once again because Perry believes corruption in the system. He is probably right! If his convictions are so strong why is his backbone frail, Sorry but it is nothing more then cowardice. James


My only fear in all this is people like you are actually allowed to speak. Your posts demonstrate you are weak of mind and easily guided. You set a sordid image for the citizens of Cornwall. We already have enough issues to deal with, without personal illiteracy and ignorance being evident in the media. It makes it difficult for Economic Development to carry out there business. But you probably do not care so long as you are doing well. Jimbo and Marie are right about the conspiracy theory...move closer to your monitor I would like to take your picture ~lol~ 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #30 By itinerant,

itinerant...http://marieangelfreedom.blogspot.com/ Reply | Report | Page Top Post #31 By 2 sides 2 a story,


WHERE DID ALL THE COMMENTS GO???Who's playing with the buttons again? Reply | Report | Page Top Post #32 By RealityChecker,

 Desperate people will take desperate measures to ensure the secret remains a secret.“Dumb and Dumber”, or is it a veiled attempt to influence and shape public opinion?
“Itinerant” and “2sides”, the “one-two”, “one-two”. The “tag team”. One rarely “posts” without the other. They have been posting on this site since “the get go”. Rarely are their posts of any real substance; more often they ridicule the writings of others, but always, they have a direct, comment, challenging opposing viewpoints.

As if no one else is allowed to express an opposing opinion, without ridicule from these two. How typically Cornwall.

Readers, during my residency in Cornwall, Ontario, CANADA, I witnessed these characteristics as typical day to day behaviours, being displayed by many of the “senior” business people, religious people, justice system people including police, political people and other prominent citizens and their loyal, obedient servants.

These are typical abusive and controlling behaviours, displayed by the “powers that be” and their surrogates, to maintain “power and control”.

“Itinerant” and “2sides”; wouldn’t it be lovely if the readers could read your posts over the past several months, to really form an opinion on “who” you are? In fact, if they could only read all the posts we, who have been posting for some time, have contributed, including the messages to/from each other. I’m certain the readers, especially the new one’s would most likely conclude, you two are either idiots or complicit to this whole sordid affair and trying desperately to influence readers through your intimidation and veiled implications, while at the same time, trying to present yourselves as law abiding, open-minded people. Again, how typical of the Cornwall “selected”, blind followers.

I mean are you two, “Claud Hopper” and “Father Baloney?”

What are you two going to do when this inquiry wraps up and when Perry is “long gone”… out of the picture? You and Cornwall will be just the same as it always was and will be. And, the same old, same old “good old boys” will get the government dollars that will flow into the city, temporarily, trying to “put on a new face”. However, if “nothing changes, then, nothing changes”. Just more dollars for the controlling, autocratic and medieval thinking, prominent citizens of Cornwall and their blind followers….yes, looks good for you two.
 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #33 By JAMES "SPEAK OUT",


Yes James my offer of anger management course is still open to you.
you still find ways to make a fool of yourself.

Second thought scrap the offer,My time is more needed in helping local victims rather than those who ran away..

Cheers..
 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #34 By 2 sides 2 a story,

ha! Ha! Ha! LOL...Desperation is creeping all over you..sweeping you and yours up, isn't it "2sides". Desperation, fear. You fools!!. There we go again..see people, "2sides" implies he know's who I am and where I live..THAT is EXACTLY how the "power-controllers" attempt to intimidate and instill fear in others. HA!! Come and get me or better still, I'll be in Cornwall, at the Weave Shed in October, come on down. My "ass" is so covered, yours is so revealed.
The time is near. The people of Cornwall will be free! Wait and watch.
 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #35 By JAMES "SPEAK OUT",


Funny they failed to mention the pay offs and suicides of others being investigated!!!one guilty as a fall guy and a cover up thats what they call justice.. Reply  | Report | Page Top Post #36 By rauder,


Jimbo if 2 sides and I are linked one would have to assume you and dodger are from the same cloth. Why do you rehash things it is a sign of a pathological liar just like Armegedon was? You have the same symptomsJimbo like I already posted you are a bad example of the citizens of Cornwall and unfortunately you get to speak.

 It is no wonder you feel conspired against you exude ignorance and self pity like an infected soar oozes puss. But with a little TLC a soar can be mended, ignorance lasts forever. Quit blaming everyone else for your ignorance. Good thing you left.  Reply | Report | Page Top Post #37 By itinerant,
HA!! HA!! HA!! LOL…Desperation is creeping all over you…sweeping you and yours up, isn’t it “Itinerant”, “2sides” and like-minded people. Desperation, fear!! You fools!! There we go again…see people, “Itinerant”, “2sides”, imply I require therapy and that he/she will provide me with the required help. “Itinerant”, “2sides” imply he/she knows who I am and that I ran away from Cornwall, leaving him/her/them to care for “victims”…What? Did she/he/they say “victims”? You mean, “Alleged victims” don’t you?
HA!! LOL!! They accuse me to be aligned with “Dodger”, “Armageddon”, and so on and so on. This is the sign of desperation!! Perry will be leaving “the scene” and Cornwall is still “stuck in time”…since the 1960’s…the “pack of wolves” at the Inquiry have not accomplished the BIG $$$$ assignment.

Desperation, fear and the results of being challenged…so very sad, “Itinerant”.

Again, I wish everyone reading this had access to ALL of our postings, so they could “judge for themselves”; gee..uncommon practice for Cornwall, isn’t it “Itinerant”

..the “picked and placed” “leaders”.


THIS IS EXACTLY what the abusive, autocratic, “power-controllers” do, when attempting to silence someone, intimidate someone and instill fear in someone. HA!! This type of practice, has been common practice in Cornwall for decades, i.e.) obedience, respect, compliance, silence-discipline free thinkers, etc.


I mean read some of the postings lately, these clowns are conditioned to the point, where they believe their suggestions that my posts should be censored….for challenging their attempts to manipulate and intimidate.


For some people, desperation is here, for others, the time is near!!!


Cornwall will be free! Wait and watch!
 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #38 By JAMES "SPEAK OUT",
Desperation where did you dig that up? I suppose once person begins fabricating lies it is hard to tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Looks like the only one ranting the same nonsense is you. If you can't argue you have nothing to say. Must be a lonesome existence Reply | Report | Page Top Post #39 By itinerant,