Going to try this post again.

What Perry did was bring to light a potential ring of molesters, but at what cost? Looking in from a distance it would appear he took the trust and faith of the victims misled them into a false sense of security believing they could find restitution and or justice. When it came time to act on his promise he fled. This too could be construed to a conspiracy of mental anguish and mental abuse. I believe if Perry was as thorough in his investigation as people are led to believe he would have known the route the trials and inquiry would take. He also would have known how deep this whole speculated ring went.

Also, if Perry ran his investigation the way it was suppose to be carried out, and how it was suppose to be carried out, he should have no issues with being present at the inquiry. Perry should have attacked the inquiry with conviction based on his expertise, knowledge and evidence. He had enough support with all the self help groups and the accused.

Perry seems to have chosen to follow in the foot steps of his fellow police officers that basically called in sick. The only difference is Perry took the martyr approach. All accomplished the same end, victims were again victimized. However the martyr approach will present Perry as a hero to people in despair, while others will label him as a coward.  

If I may put forth a bit of personal philosophy. What Dunlop has been praised for is exposing a possible pedophile ring. Kudos to you Perry and well done. To date there is only speculation based on guided questioning by a bunch of lawyers everyone claims are not acting in the best interest of the victims. What this has created are questions as to the credibility of the victims who do not trust the system, and the system that leads a less then reputable investigation. To some Dunlop was a hero. How do Dunlop’s so called heroics differ from the accused? He appears to have run an investigation in the back halls and alleys. Why did he proceed in this manner? Maybe it was a carefully orchestrated to intensify the conspiracy theory or tender witnesses to suit. These procedures are the same procedures used by the accused. Skunking about and abusing children.
What Perry did was bring to light a potential ring of molesters, but at what cost? Looking in from a distance it would appear he took the trust and faith of the victims misled them into a false sense of security believing they could find restitution and or justice. When it came time to act on his promise he fled. This too could be construed to a conspiracy of mental anguish and mental abuse. I believe if Perry was as thorough in his investigation as people are led to believe he would have known the route the trials and inquiry would take. He also would have known how deep this whole speculated ring went.

Also, if Perry ran his investigation the way it was suppose to be carried out, and how it was suppose to be carried out, he should have no issues with being present at the inquiry. Perry should have attacked the inquiry with conviction based on his expertise, knowledge and evidence. He had enough support with all the self help groups and the accused.

Perry seems to have chosen to follow in the foot steps of his fellow police officers that basically called in sick. The only difference is Perry took the martyr approach. All accomplished the same end, victims were again victimized. However the martyr approach will present Perry as a hero to people in despair, while others will label him as a coward.   

Yes I do some investigations into different forms of safety for people in industry and NEVER EVER have I skinked about in the shadows and NEVER have I EVER let my clients stand on their own in questionable situations, call it professional pride.  

and god forbid that the padre be accused of anything as slinky as a secret deal to silence a victim but that is exactly what happened your not gonna tell me a smart man like the bishop would blindly sign a sealed envelope nor any of the other lawyers that were involved they knew exactly what they were doing but the sheet hit the fan and it splattered them all.  

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dodger, to counter sue would cause nothing but more head aches and people like yourself would again claim the system is corrupt. It is a loose loose situation. I asked the same question also, at 70+ years old what would the padre have to gain by bringing a troubled man to court for wrongful prosecution? You have heard the term "pick your battles" well this is one that is better off left unchallenged. As for the bishop, again sometimes it is better to pay out in hopes that unsubstantiated accusations do not make it to the public eye. Especially in light of current media publications and the cry that all churches are molesting alter boys. Remember it is only a select few that speak out against him. I for one support the man knowing him very well 

No added stress with that - huh? 

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He hasn't answered any questions in the past and I doubt he will now either.

I do wonder if it was at ST Raphael’s', or Perhaps Pilon's point or maybe in St Andrews. Many of which were places retreats were held. Maybe even with in the confines of the youth group hang out atop the sacristy 

You seem to know an awful lot about those hangouts would explain a lot of your comments. 

Dodger, I will entertain myself this evening and reply to your post as it will fuel your conspiracy theory and give you yet another topic to be wrong about. I was there too! But like most alter boys was smart enough to know boys do not play with boys…Oh wait a minute I a repeating myself again 

...and DUMB enough not to realize priests DO and CAN molest kids!!!! 

hey it's the other idiot 

Like I said you really have a high opinion of yourself itinerant but that does not mean you are right. If there are many news stories about priests molesting boys could it possibly be that some priests are doing just that or god forbid that a padre would be caught with his robe down. If the church continues to protect the ones that they know are dirty then the church deserves to be drug down with them. 

 Dodger we always revisit the same conversation. I never said it did not happen. What I am saying is you have to quit whining and blaming others and start proving.  You see again I asked John some questions and he has not answered. You are all so quick to judge but slow to prove thus it is you who nobody can trust. High on myself, No not at all, I just have little or no time in my life to waste on self pitying people. Fix it, change it, or forget it. We all choose the better part of our own destiny. If you choose to wallow in swill please do not expect others to do the same. 

 There will be no fix until they are all outed. As for forgetting they would like us to do that so that it can happen again. these people did not choose to get molested. As for me I am not wallowing just making sure that the people that have their heads in the sand ignoring the truth of what went on hear it enough that maybe they will make sure it never happens again. A victim has the right to not speak if he so chooses that does not make him a coward nor a liar. 

I will put it this way to you Itinerant...If I have learned anything over the last 14 years, it is to watch what I say to who. IF your repressed memories would start to resurface, then ANYTHING that I say to you would not only be used against you, but against me also. You could have sat in on the pre-trials and heard everything. You could have been there in support of the padre, along with his ONE other friend, or you may have joined his sister and walked out in disgust of her brothers actions.  

Touche and a very good point because the pedophile supporters want to prove that victims are liars especially in public and what better way than to save everything they say and use it against them a little later. Oh sorry alleged pedophiles. 

Head in the sand or head up your butt it matters not.

I truly cannot believe how naive you are relating to testimony. How can you believe a person is acting anyone’s best interest when he flees at the first sign of being held accountable? Does it not contradict what you are all trying to stop? That is people being held accountable for their actions.  Your other post clearly details why the accused get away with the crimes “A victim has the right to not speak if he so chooses that does not make him a coward nor a liar." Once any individual is not held responsible for their actions due to his/her RIGHTS, then it opens the door for the accused to have the same right. It is called the charter of rights. I hope you are proud of your beliefs and the lifestyle you promote. Thank you for your comment and for adding to the problems of the world I guess I had better start watching Sesame Street to better understand your mentality. 

Or you can just put your head back in the sand whatever floats your boat. As far as I am concerned you do not warrant the batting of an eyelash. You are totally inconsequential to anything.