Father Tom Doyle emails to Dick Nadeau

Dick Nadeau posted the following on his ProjectTruth2 website. The substance of the emails caused fireworks the Cornwall Public Inquiry.  David Sheriff-Scott, lawyer for the Diocese of Alexandria-Cornwall, protested loudly that Father Tom Doyle should not be called to testify as an expert witness.

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:08:23 -0700

From: Tom Doyle

To: <comments@projecttruth2.com>

I was sent your URL from my sister who received it from a friend.  I am a catholic priest and have been deeply involved in the clergy sex abuse mess in the US and Canada for 15 years.  I am both fascinated and shocked by what I have read.  I cannot commend you enough for your courage and honesty in blowing the evil cover of the cabal that perpetrated the mess and continued to cover.  I may be able to help you and would like to establish some contact.  If you are interested in checking my credentials etc. I welcome this.  For starters, I am mentioned prominently in Jason Berry's book, LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION as well as in several other books about the issue.  I have been an expert witness on a couple hundred civil cases in the US in support of victims.....have been the same on a couple cases from Ireland and presently involved in the litigation involving the Irish Christian brothers in St. John's Nfld......the Mt. Cashel bunch.  This is round two!

But  more important to your story.......my family lived in Cornwall in the late fifties (1959) and early sixties.  We attended St. Columban's Church and knew several of the priests mentioned in your stories.  I celebrated my first mass at St. Columban's in 1970.  After we have established contact and I am informed that you may be interested in communicating with me I'll share a little more.  I have no heavy duty information but a few remembrances that might help a little.  Also, I have been involved many times with people like yourselves who have struggled to gain justice and honesty in the cath. church governmental system.  I've learned a lot and would be happy to share.

I am still a priest although I am probably on the hit list of every bishop in the US.  I am an active-duty US Air Force chaplain, stationed in Oklahoma City but presently going to school with the Navy in San Diego.  Please let me know if I can help.  Sincerely and grateful for your courage.......Thomas Doyle (Rev.....Major)  My real first name is Patrick...when I was in Cornwall that was what I was known as...attended St. Lawrence HS.

Good luck

  TPD

Subject: Re: Wed

Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:15:22 -0700

From: Tom Doyle

To: <dicknadeau@sympatico.ca>

  Hi.  I will be back in touch very soon. I have a very busy day today and won't be back till later tonight.

My family lived on Shirley Ave. in Riverdale.  We are Americans citizens and moved there because of my father's business.  We moved to Montreal in 1966 or so.

What is the present status of some of the priests?  I knew Ken Martin and Bernard Cameron.  I know some of the others also but not as well.  I had heard of some stuff going on in Cornwall from the survivors network. Are you guys in touch with a US support groups called LinkUp. if not, check their website which I will attach.

It sounds like the Cornwall saga would be worthy of national exposure.  I know a lot of media people in the US and will start asking questions. I don't think that I know many people in Cornwall anymore.  Most of my high school friends moved away.  One old friend still is there and was a bit prominent in Cornwall politics...name is Terri Lalonde....do you know her?

I'll get back to you later today or tomorrow.  Good luck.  Tom Doyle

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Subject: Sun AM

Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 09:57:18 -0700

From: Tom Doyle

To: "Dick Nadeau" <dicknadeau@sympatico.ca>

Dick.  Its SUN AM here and I have a little spare time for once so am catching up on some email.  I have been trying to dredge up past memories from Cornwall.  As I mentioned before I was an altar boy at St. Columban's. I knew Ken Martin, Bernard Cameron etc.  There was a priest there named Stuart MacMillan who left, married and I believe is in Toronto.  I suspect he would know something.  I recall that Ken Martin was very popular with younger people.  He and I became friends but he never tried anything with me.  Cameron always came off as a bit weird.....very controlling, always seemed a bit angry and uptight.  I recall only one strange incident with him when he took me out for a car ride to see sights in the area when I was about 15.  He started asking me very personal questions about sex.....did I date girls, which I did.  What did I do with them...and he was probing for details.  Also asked me if I masturbated etc....again, looking for details. It was shocking to me at the time and I recall wanting to get out of the car.  I recall that after that I avoided him as much as I could.

My family was not especially pious.  I was active at the church but more interested in chasing girls at that time. We also knew RJ MacDonald very well.  My mother had cancer and died in 1966.  She had several episodes leading up to the final one.  RJ was especially kind to her.   He visited our home to see her several times.  Of all the priests there he was the one I had most affection and respect for.  If he was a pedophile I never knew it or suspected it. I recall that after I entered the seminary myself and got closer to ordination (I was in the States) I tried to find Martin's address to send him an invitation.  All I could find was that there had been some sort of embarrassing incident in the 60's and he was sent off somewhere in Quebec. I never heard what it was, where he went etc.  Heard nothing more till recently when my contact with the sex abuse survivors web site showed up the information on Cornwall.

As to your present situation......denial is a massive problem with sex abuse.  The only way to get the attention of the Catholic church leadership is by taking their money (lawsuits), giving them bad publicity and threatening their power.  I have learned over 16 years of direct experience which started when I worked at the Vatican embassy in Washington DC, that the hierarchy is about the most corrupt political entity on the globe.  At least with the Nazis you knew what you were dealing with.  I have been directly involved in several hundred cases.  Most lawyers in the US say that if a bishop's lips are moving they presume he is lying.

The civil community often is caught up in the denial and brainwashing because the leaders think that supporting church leaders is supporting the church...and supporting the church brings them some sense of security. Wrong!  The real church is the people, not the bishops.  All the stuff we were taught about bishops being descendants of the apostles, chosen by the Holy Ghost etc,. and named by the pope who is God's vicar....is nonsense. It makes as much sense as believing in the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy. But it works to keep the people in control!

Depending on where you are at, what you probably need is some heavy duty lawsuits with some really tough lawyers representing victims.  The more ruthless the better because the institutional church is about the most deceptive entity any lawyer will ever encounter.

You also probably need some direct publicity.  I suspect that the local paper is probably lukewarm.  How about the Ottawa or Montreal papers.  There is also a US independent Catholic publication called the National Catholic Reporter that might be interested and would do an excellent job if they got on it.

Let me know what else is going on.  I will keep on dredging my memory banks.  Its too bad you aren't in the States because it would be different. I know attorneys who would have a field day with the Cornwall situation. Anyway....you are in my thoughts and prayers.  You are all doing the right thing but being right often means suffering.  Keep in touch.....Patrick

(Tom) Doyle

Subject: Re: Sun AM

Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:30:44 -0700

From: Tom Doyle

To: <dicknadeau@sympatico.ca>

Dick.....No problem sharing the email.  I'd be glad to send out a more generalized message to all of you with some words of experience and encouragement.  I realize how discouraging it gets.  Don't forget about the Mount Cashel mess and how everyone from the top of the church to the top of the Nfld government tried to cover.....and in the end it all failed.  The archbishop had to resign and a bunch of the brothers went to jail.  Now, a new series of cases there is starting up with some US lawyers working on it......they found that the brothers headquarters is in NY which makes an American connection.  More garbage will come out this time and it will make the official church look even worse...and hopefully will move the system a little closer to being honest.

Date: Tuesday, November 7, 2000

From: Tom Doyle

To: <comments@projecttruth2.com>  

I sent several messages to Dick Nadeau and to the site last month.  I promised Dick a much longer and supportive message which I still have not been able to complete due to time constraints.  However prior to that....I'd like to share with you and probably with the site a couple of personal observations on the reactions that I have received.

First, as a result of the site being picked up all over I have received many inquiries from people who were either themselves sexually abused or whose children had been abused.  All asked how to go about getting healing and the majority stated that they had approached their bishops or the chancery offices and that they had been either ignored, but more often, threatened and intimidated into silence.  Seeing your site and much of the other media coverage of abuse cases throughout the US has helped them take the issue public.

  Second, I have received many supportive messages.

Third....and this is most interesting.....I have received a number of highly critical messages which I understand because this whole issue and the support of a priest can be shocking to many who find that it seriously threatens the security that their church gave them.  I can handle criticism.....I have received tons of it including threats and slanderous comments over the years.  But I would like to point out that attacking the victims or their families or the attorneys helping them or the press or people like me only avoids the real issue.

The real issue is the absolute fact that many, Catholic priests and a few bishops in the US and Canada have sexually abused boys, girls and young adults for years and it was kept covered up and remained a dark secret.  In the past 15 years it has come out in the open but the church structures have refused to deal with it head on as have most civilian structures that have supported the church.

The scandal, damage, havoc and chaos is NOT caused by those who have brought the problem to the surface, nor by those who have brought charges against the church, nor by the press who has courageously exposed the problem. The real problem is not even the sad priests and other persons with sexual disorders who have done such incredible destruction and harm to thousands. The real problem lies at the feet of those who have known about the sexual abuse and have turned away, lied about it, covered or hid the abusers, ignored the victims, lied to the public or the catholic faithful, hid behind their titles and in general preferred to protect the stature of the governmental dimension of the catholic church rather than the victims.

It is easy to cast accusations of "Catholic bashing" etc. at those people who have forced the issue to the surface like so many very brave and good people in Cornwall have done......but it is not easy to face the multi-faceted and illusive sickness that is the abuse.  It is multi-faceted because it includes the sex abuse itself, the corporate denial of so many who refuse to believe it thereby causing the victims to suffer even more, and those who are in power and who have allowed it to happen and when confronted, lied about it.

My experience in this issue is long, painful and real.  I have been with the suffering and know that they are real.  I have not lost my faith in the church because the church is the people, the suffering, the scandalized.

Remember the many stories in the Gospels that prove that Christ did not have an office in the Temple.  He was with the people and when he got angry it was only at the religious leaders for their hypocrisy.  My faith, like those of many others involved in this business....has shifted.  I no longer believe in the claims that to "give and take" with the Lord I have to go through the hierarchy.  They have betrayed the trust of too many to be believed on faith any more.

Once again I applaud the bravery, courage and strength of the people who keep up the fight.

Finally, let me share a brief experience I had just today.  I had the sad fortune of spending several hours with a man and woman from a city in a neighboring State.  The poured out rivers of pain and anguish.....and anger at a bishop who had lied to them about the priest who had abused their son and the sons of many others.  The priest is facing jail.  The diocese is facing millions of dollars in law suits but the terrible part of this story is that the mother and father are facing an empty room in their home.  Their son committed suicide as a direct result of what had happened to him.

So, when people look to you and accuse you of harming the church, think of this man and woman.  They are hurt and they are the church.  What is the real harm and where is it coming from?