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Coalition for Action submits recommendations to Cornwall Public Inquiry

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23 February 2009

 

Posted By Staff

 

Coalition for Action lawyers Ian Paul and Frank Horn submitted a list of 10 recommendations this afternoon to address what they called a general failure by local institutions to respond to allegations of sexual abuse.

 

"This inquiry will be a watershed report for cities and towns all over the world," Horn said during the coalition's phase one submissions Monday.

 

The recommendations range from the need for an independent body to investigate allegations of conspiracy and corruption against high-level public officials to whistleblower protection for police officers like Const. Perry Dunlop.

 

The coalition suggested that the investigations by the OPP and the Ottawa Police into allegations of a Cornwall conspiracy "were so poor" that Cornwall's citizens could have no confidence in their outcomes.

 

On the same front, the coalition's written submissions recommend a formal mechanism that promotes the sharing of information between public institutions such as the police, probation services and the Children's Aid Society.

 

"There was a lot of pressure being put on everyone," Horn said.

 

Horn told the inquiry how he nearly wept when reviewing documents that showed some of the trials and tribulations of Const. Dunlop. He said that Dunlop needs an apology from a high-profile official "for what he went through."

 

The coalition also raised the points of victim access to their own Children's Aid Society records and that confidentiality clauses in favour of institutions, which the group suggest can bind victims of sexual abuse, should be banned in Ontario.

 

"I feel badly for the victims," Horn said in closing to Commissioner Normand Glaude. "They felt that the justice system let them down, but that you are not going to let them down."

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Comments on this Article.


 

Why would you weep for Perry Dunlop! Perry Dunlop would have done all sexual abuse victims and society a service by sharing the details of the trials and tribulations he claims to have endured with the Cornwall Public Inquiry. The damages Perry suffered pale compared to the lifelong consequences sexual abuse victims are burdened with. Dunlop may have started off well intentioned, but seemed to succumb to a personal agenda. There is little doubt that Perry connected with many victims as a beacon of hope. He also heard from many victims and had a responsibility to share the information with the authorities. Yes there will be claims " the fix is in" Really Perry missed the chance to share in a protected environment the exact betails of his observations. He could have expressed his concerns regarding the inquiry in the safety of the witness box at the CPI. The world was watching. Waiting. It became the Perry Dunlop show and really did nothing to help victims. It did keep the bloggers going along with the conspiracy theorists.It is hard to imagine that there are those that suggest that the CPI is a goverment funded coverup. Do you really think the powers that be would invest this energy into saving the butts of some aged deviants. There can be little doubt that the incidents of sexual abuse in Cornwall was and may still be very high, also the powers that be failed miserably in the past, but by being overly critical of the CPI, as well by failing to patricipate in a meaningfull fashion, great harm was done to the process and likely the outcome. In addition an orchestrated attempt to undermine the CPI was underway from day one. Weep not for Perry and his followers. Weep for the victims that will not benifet from active paticipation free from rhetoric and hysteria. The inquiry had and hopefully still has the power to impact sexual abuse on a national scale. It was the only show in Canada and with all the petty bickering and posturing we have all paid a huge price.Shame, shame, shame only in Canada.

 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By silentnomore,


As for this so-called Inquiry having the power to impact sexual abuse on a national scale, please read the Provincial Advocates Annual Report and you'll begin to understand why NOTHING will get done of any consequence whether provincial or nationally. As for your comment oh "silentnomore" regarding Perry Dunlop, he got the "shaft" from the system including his own force many times over, so if you think that what the coppers and the system did to Perry is OK, I guess you're in a dream world as they gave the victims the shaft by not doing something about it way back then. The cops, CAS, CCAS's, Min of C&Y oh and we can't forget the church in all this, all the way up to "Tricky Dick" our esteemed dictator for a few years will continue to cover their collective *sses as they have been doing all over this province for decades and decades and the abuse did and still does continue on unabated and will continue until laws are put in to hang the bastards who abuse ANY child and I'd gladly pull the lever to open the trap door. And oh yeh "silentnomore", your style of writing does quite well in giving us a hint as to the crap of silentnomore, you never were, just a different alias!!


Re: Child Advocate's Annual Report

To Y'all:I just finished reading Irwin's report and was talking with the
Star's Laurie who wrote the front page piece in today's Star. I also
talked with a reporter from the Sun and told him to check out Vivien
Song's column and Sam Pazzanno's column that they did when I brought
my case and problems within the "System" to their attention when we
were covering the "Jeffrey Baldwin" case at the Superior Court. I
told them that the Min of C&Y had a 40 page fax since 2004/5 that
they refused to answer to regarding a lot of these same conditions. I
was talking with Irwin's office today and they're calling me back as
I have offered them all of my files from the HWCAS, the 2CD's
recorded by the IPC during a tele-conference Adjudication against the
police and all of the paper-work that has been generated between me,
the HWCAS, the Hamilton cops in my 2nd FOI Request that has been
ongoing for 4 years and the reporter is calling me back. Also, I was
talking with Andrea Horwath's Executive Assistant Sheila White about
all of this as they have been "guiding" me for many years, good
people they both are, so I guess we'll see what happens from here on.
By the way, in that 40 page fax mentioned above, I bring up the fact
that neither the various CAS's & CCAS's nor the Min of C&Y will
provide NO statistics regarding kids under the age of 18 in their care
(?) and when the kids turn 18, the door is open and the CAS &
CCAS "wipe their hands" of these people (US!!!)! Nobody knows and or
cares about what happens to these kids and also, how do they know if
the "System" is working right if they don't evaluate their own stats
and the stats once the kids are released. We know and so do they but
with their "super immunity" they don't have to tell and also my
complaint about the Advocate having only the powers to "review" and
make "recommendations" with NO OVER-SITE powers to actually do
anything and that the whole thing should be given over to the
Ombudsman but it would appear that Irwin has a fine stubborn streak
in him and it doesn't seem like he's going to let them get away with
it. Any-who, I keep y'all up to date when I hear more. Dave

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By grimreaper_47,

Oh and by the by, in case some of you louts don't get REAL news out in CornHole, "copy & paste" the following into your address bar and read it & weep*******---

http://provincialadvocate.on.ca/main/en/about/aboutus.cfm******---

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By grimreaper_47,


A protected enviroment.Ya right,if that is what you think.If only you truely new.

 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By luckyred,


Will this blame the whistleblower sheet ever stop.

 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By dodger,


Yes we should all weep for Mr. Perry Dunlop and his family.THEy gave up so much because perry did what no fellow officers would do. Go against his supperors.Thats the day he no longer became a team player and his troubles started.

 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By luckyred,


Grim is that the words of Armageddon aka dave???

 I see you neglect to provide the whole link to your advocate report. Is there a reason for that?

As for silentone being me, not likely but if it fuels your conspiracy theory I am good with that.

It is nice to read your point’s silentone.

 

Red and dodger, at no time in silentone’s post did he/she blame the whistle blower for blowing. Your responses to silentone show that you do not read what is written. You have an opinion and only think you are being attacked and close your mind. There is no blame for what Dunlop and family gave up. Silentone only commented, as I have in the past, that in the end Dunlop failed you just like the system. He misled people into believing that something could be done to better their lives, then when it came time to provide and stand up for what he claimed to believe in, he ran. That would qualify as a form of psychological abuse.


I bet if you take the time to think about what I said and not be angry or think I am attacking Perry, you can reason this out. If anyone in the system you despise so much had let people down as Perry did, you would be on them for the same reason we question Dunlop.

Silentone please feel free to correct me if I am in err on that point.

 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #7 By itinerant,

I agree entirely itinerant, thank you for taking the time to read my post, to thank you for your support. I want to let everyone know that I do not know any of the posters and I do not work for any newspaper. Itinerant, you and others have taken a great deal of abuse for sharing your thoughts. I regret sitting on the sidelines watching this behaviour, which is tandamount to hate mongering. I actually feel concern for these people. They are paralyzed by anger and emotion and as a result they lose the ability to rationalize.

 Healthy debate I encourage. The rhetoric which is standard out here is something else. It suprises me that posters will cry about unjust treatment they have witnessed.

On the moral high road they write and blogg,sometimes even lacing the commentary with religous content, in the next breath they arbitrarily judge and condemn someone they view as a detractor. It is shocking the venom which spews towards those that fall out of favor. Very christian. I think that it is now time we look to protecting our children and learning from our mistakes. Didn't Perry want to help the children. How did he acheive this objective? Perry's political statement left the victims abandoned again. Used and abused. Perry knew he had a tough ride ahead. For some reason he decided to bail at the finish line. It could almost be understood if the media circus he and his followers created had not taken place. Hero's run the distance.  Enough for know  

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By silentnomore,

Well Itinerant, it looks like you've got a new "Bum Buddy", eh? Why don't you two clowns get together and write as one. I won't argue you with you about what PERRY DUNLOP did as I feel that for the reasons I gave above and others as well, he did what he thought was the right thing for him to do. As for the rest of your garble, I would refer your arguments to and quote from the "Good Book" where it says: ""TOUGH SH*T"!!!!!!!!!!Have a good day you two twits. By the way "silentnomore", my dad is the Reverend John Witzel and I'm the "irreverent" Dave Witzel, so God's more on my side than yours so na-nana-na-na! 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By grimreaper_47,

Dave I am sorry you have been treated so poorly. I am not sure that having a minister as a father is of much value since a great deal of the sexual abuse committed is done by clergy. Again I am really sorry and hope for the best for you. Enough for know

 Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By silentnomore,

How come you two see nothing wrong in this commissoners own words.NO ONE WILL BE FORCED TO TESTIFY AGAINST THERE WILL AT THIS INQUIREY.That to me that is the bottom line.You have to practise what you preach if you want respect. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By luckyred

red stay on topic. and in asnwer because it is over. Now the after trials begin and I am looking forward to seeing that happen. As I said before any of the abusers should be publically hung. 

Dave so many people already know it is you, as your writing styles or lack there of and poor attitude, lack of ethics lack of respect both personally and publically and exuding no personal pride are no different as grimreaper then it was as armegeddon. Once again you were only fooling yourself.

 The reason you cannot comment on Perry is because you know we are right and cannot argue intelligently on his behalf. I am sorry that you apparently endured such turmoil in your life, but it is not our fault. You have to quit blaming other people and taking out your anger on everyone else. You are just abusive as those you claim abused you. You attitude is probably why you lost your civil suit also. 

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By itinerant,

Perry was willing to testify. Only on his terms. He did not want to be cross examined. It is fundemental that all will have the chance to test the evidence, otherwise anyone can say and do whatever they want and not be held to account. It might have been prudent to seek clarification of material as well. Why in Sam Hill would anyone believe that PD is above advancing his own agenda. To thumb his nose at the inquiry that many victims asked for is wrong. This hero worship nonsense is surreal.Perry fanned the flames for too long to just pull up and say "the fix is in"  

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By silentnomore,