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Blogs/comments posted on the Cornwall Standard Freeholder and other websites to early March 2008 (each series of comments is colour coded)

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 29 February 2008 “Witness allegations tossed out”My sister was in the foster system around Cornwall in the era that Mr.Bissonnette was in foster care. She witnessed some goings on in the foster home she was in although she was never herself abused there sahe tells me there were other young girls that were abused in that home and any complaint that was made to the cas and the police was dismissed as just not being true. The CAS to this day is one of the most powerful organizations around and they have more power than the police themselves. As for them protecting children I have my doubts about that! It did not surprise me that the police and the CAS would want to suppress evidence that would shine a bad spotlight on them after all they are the government and they do not make mistakes nor do they cover anything up.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By Dodger, 12 hours ago | 2 Votes | Vote:


Isn't it interesting that those who were there to protect us and failed to do that and or failed to ensure that it was done, have such immunity for their negligence? The CAS hides behind their Privacy Laws, the Ministry of Children's and Youth who can effect change by ensuring the CAS follow the Child and Family Services Act keep their mouths shut and let the OACAS spout out their propoganda. And then we have the cops who don't want to investigate the CAS's and hide behind their PSA and effectively allow the abuse to go on. The Ministry of C&Y funds the CAS's & CCAS's but under the ACT, if there is a rogue CAS or CCAS, the Ministry can step into that CAS Board and remove or replace any or all Board members of that CAS and appoint another hand picked person or group to run that CAS. Funny how we don't hear about about the Ministry not doing their job as they're the ones who are responsible at the end of the day. As far as I'm concerned, the biggest abusers of kids today are those groups (Police, CAS's, CCAS's and the Ministry of C&Y)and they are the ones who should be charged as well but when you have the AG and Min of Public Safety & Corrections not doing anything but covering their butts, well now you've got it. The protection of kids in both the CAS & CCAS has been butchered since its inception in the 1890's and nobody wants to do anything because once the lid of "Pandora's Box" has been lifted, EVERY single government and party has been negligent in taking proper care of these kids and that is criminal but nobody in any Province of Ontario government wants to reveal or accept the blame for their part. And as far as our wonderful judiciary, crowns, cops, etc. are concerned you've read about how crooked and corrupt a lot of them are, so broken down that we even have the Ontario Criminal Lawyer Association bringing it to the government and the AG's attention. Whether that'll do any good or not is questionable because as far as I'm concerned, the whole lot of them are less than honest (just to be polite!)but if it happened to one of theirs, you can bet your butt that they'd be the ones doing the screaming like we are now. Not that I wish any of them harm but wouldn't it be nice to see how they would feel and what they would do if it was one of their kids that was so horribly abused and then maybe we'd see some action but failing that, the laws of the Province are a joke and so is the government along with all of those groups I talked about above

.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By armagedon, 6 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:


Unfortunately, this feeble inquiry won't do it, but it's time that the CAS was eliminated and a system of help and support set up that would truly look after the welfare of children. As amagedon points out, the CAS hides behind the law and is never held accountable. They've been corrupt and crooked since their inception and their directors get nice fat salaries and expense accounts while they waste untold hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. One of the best examples of the CAS criminal neglect is allowing and encouraging that the children in foster care be medicated to the gills with psychiatric drugs to keep them quiet about abuse and neglect. Nobody sticks up for the children. It's no wonder so many of them wind up addicted to drugs and in trouble with the law.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By rehabguy, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


Bet none of this will appear in the standard freeholder anytime soon right Claude nudge nudge wink wink

Reply | Report | Page Top  Post #4 By Dodger, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


rehabguy, it's kind of late right now but I can get back here tomorrow and give you the names and e-mails of some MPPS directly involved in Bill 88 which is an ACT to give the Ombudsman's Office over-site and control over the the CAS and CCAS's when it comes to the complaints brought to his office. It's been stalled in the Legislature since it was introduced in 2006 so you can see what good Dalton and his gang of no goods have been up too, eh? Talk to you tomorrow.

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Comments posted on Freeholder website in response to 28 February 2008 City lawyer decides not to return to inquiry

as far as im concerned mr. adams as a lawyer himself as come to realize,that he was part of the cover up at the begining of this whole affair.and had second thoughts about retestifing.out of sight out of mind.couldn<t at lease 1 of these high priced lawyers at this inquirey challenge the commisioner way way before now.or were they keeping this to give them an ace up there sleve.lets get on with all testimonys

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By luckyred, 16 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


So when does Adams go to jail?? Do they have reservations beside Perry for him???

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By itinerant, 5 secs ago | 0 Votes | Vote


yes when does he get charged with contempt and sent to jail he is a vital link in the chain. the old let's cover our asses routine is happening again.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By Dodger, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


It wasn't that long ago, Claude McIntosh wrote quite an "editorial" emphacizing how badly he felt Sean was being treated and that Sean should be able to return to the stand to "clear his name" of any perceived negativity. McIntosh reiterated how "great" Sean Adams is and that he was beyond reproach. IN fact McIntosh as usual, maligned others, in his attempt to "rescue" Sean Adams ("Adams, Sherwood, Swabey & Follon").

Any "connections" Claude? HOW about an "editorial" explaining why "you" may have changed your mind, just as Sean has.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By James "SPEAK OUT", 17 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote

 

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 27 February 2008 "Timeline:  the Silmser alleagtions

its to bad we can't hear off all the other things that went on. that wasn't wrote down but was only talked about or order from her bosses.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By luckyred, 7 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


WOW
Somebody actually was paid to write this article. How do I seek such gainful employment as to cut and paste useless information? In the light of all this global warming concerns, why are we allowing news like this to be circulated?


It wastes paper and energyWhy do we always regurgitate all this nonsense?Maybe a good buggering of the judicial system is in order. It is amazing how people can be motivated under certain circumstances

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By itinerant, 7 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 29 February 2008 “Witness allegations tossed out”My sister was in the foster system around Cornwall in the era that Mr.Bissonnette was in foster care. She witnessed some goings on in the foster home she was in although she was never herself abused there sahe tells me there were other young girls that were abused in that home and any complaint that was made to the cas and the police was dismissed as just not being true. The CAS to this day is one of the most powerful organizations around and they have more power than the police themselves. As for them protecting children I have my doubts about that! It did not surprise me that the police and the CAS would want to suppress evidence that would shine a bad spotlight on them after all they are the government and they do not make mistakes nor do they cover anything up.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By Dodger, 12 hours ago | 2 Votes | Vote:


Isn't it interesting that those who were there to protect us and failed to do that and or failed to ensure that it was done, have such immunity for their negligence? The CAS hides behind their Privacy Laws, the Ministry of Children's and Youth who can effect change by ensuring the CAS follow the Child and Family Services Act keep their mouths shut and let the OACAS spout out their propoganda. And then we have the cops who don't want to investigate the CAS's and hide behind their PSA and effectively allow the abuse to go on. The Ministry of C&Y funds the CAS's & CCAS's but under the ACT, if there is a rogue CAS or CCAS, the Ministry can step into that CAS Board and remove or replace any or all Board members of that CAS and appoint another hand picked person or group to run that CAS. Funny how we don't hear about about the Ministry not doing their job as they're the ones who are responsible at the end of the day. As far as I'm concerned, the biggest abusers of kids today are those groups (Police, CAS's, CCAS's and the Ministry of C&Y)and they are the ones who should be charged as well but when you have the AG and Min of Public Safety & Corrections not doing anything but covering their butts, well now you've got it. The protection of kids in both the CAS & CCAS has been butchered since its inception in the 1890's and nobody wants to do anything because once the lid of "Pandora's Box" has been lifted, EVERY single government and party has been negligent in taking proper care of these kids and that is criminal but nobody in any Province of Ontario government wants to reveal or accept the blame for their part. And as far as our wonderful judiciary, crowns, cops, etc. are concerned you've read about how crooked and corrupt a lot of them are, so broken down that we even have the Ontario Criminal Lawyer Association bringing it to the government and the AG's attention. Whether that'll do any good or not is questionable because as far as I'm concerned, the whole lot of them are less than honest (just to be polite!)but if it happened to one of theirs, you can bet your butt that they'd be the ones doing the screaming like we are now. Not that I wish any of them harm but wouldn't it be nice to see how they would feel and what they would do if it was one of their kids that was so horribly abused and then maybe we'd see some action but failing that, the laws of the Province are a joke and so is the government along with all of those groups I talked about above

.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By armagedon, 6 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:


Unfortunately, this feeble inquiry won't do it, but it's time that the CAS was eliminated and a system of help and support set up that would truly look after the welfare of children. As amagedon points out, the CAS hides behind the law and is never held accountable. They've been corrupt and crooked since their inception and their directors get nice fat salaries and expense accounts while they waste untold hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. One of the best examples of the CAS criminal neglect is allowing and encouraging that the children in foster care be medicated to the gills with psychiatric drugs to keep them quiet about abuse and neglect. Nobody sticks up for the children. It's no wonder so many of them wind up addicted to drugs and in trouble with the law.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By rehabguy, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


Bet none of this will appear in the standard freeholder anytime soon right Claude nudge nudge wink wink

Reply | Report | Page Top  Post #4 By Dodger, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


rehabguy, it's kind of late right now but I can get back here tomorrow and give you the names and e-mails of some MPPS directly involved in Bill 88 which is an ACT to give the Ombudsman's Office over-site and control over the the CAS and CCAS's when it comes to the complaints brought to his office. It's been stalled in the Legislature since it was introduced in 2006 so you can see what good Dalton and his gang of no goods have been up too, eh? Talk to you tomorrow.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By armagedon, 3 mins ago | 

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Comments posted on Freeholder website in response to 28 February 2008 City lawyer decides not to return to inquiry

as far as im concerned mr. adams as a lawyer himself as come to realize,that he was part of the cover up at the begining of this whole affair.and had second thoughts about retestifing.out of sight out of mind.couldn<t at lease 1 of these high priced lawyers at this inquirey challenge the commisioner way way before now.or were they keeping this to give them an ace up there sleve.lets get on with all testimonys

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By luckyred, 16 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


So when does Adams go to jail?? Do they have reservations beside Perry for him???

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By itinerant, 5 secs ago | 0 Votes | Vote


yes when does he get charged with contempt and sent to jail he is a vital link in the chain. the old let's cover our asses routine is happening again.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By Dodger, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


It wasn't that long ago, Claude McIntosh wrote quite an "editorial" emphacizing how badly he felt Sean was being treated and that Sean should be able to return to the stand to "clear his name" of any perceived negativity. McIntosh reiterated how "great" Sean Adams is and that he was beyond reproach. IN fact McIntosh as usual, maligned others, in his attempt to "rescue" Sean Adams ("Adams, Sherwood, Swabey & Follon").

Any "connections" Claude? HOW about an "editorial" explaining why "you" may have changed your mind, just as Sean has.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By James "SPEAK OUT", 17 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote

 

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 26 February 2008 in response to “City police investigator won't testify at inquiry”  

sorry to hear this has affected constable sebalj.she has been also made a victim of thjs pedophiles.good luck and a speedy recovery.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By luckyred, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

How come ONE COP gets a get out of jail pass cause it may mentally hurt her and ONE COP GOES TO JAIL FOR THE SAME REASON???

YEP THIS IS CORNWALL JUSTICE!!! WAY TO GO INQUIRY WHAT A JOKE..BRITISH COLUMBIA STILL SUPPORTS PERRY

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By Hillside, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


I agree with "Hillside". What's good for one cop is good for the other. If you don't think this is affecting Perry mentally than you haven't been paying attention. THis is just another example of the joke of a inquiry we have to hear about. Normand Glaude has sure dropped the ball on this inquiry. Do everyone a favour and end this poor excuse of a circus!! Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By Patric, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Heidi

Heidi I do not know much bout policing but I think you were pretty thorough.I recall two other officers in attendance with Heidi. Brian (Bus Driver) Snyder and another gentleman I cannot recall. Why are the other two officers not somewhat responsible for what was taking place. I believe Brian was senior to Heidi. Did they leave her out to dry?

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By itinerant, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:


I also agree with Hillside. Perry and his family were basically driven out of Cornwall. They received numerous threats, and had to move. If you ask me, that alone would affect the Dunlop family mentally, and is still affecting them to this day. Why can't the inquiry use Perry's statements from 2000? A lot of people have testified in cases by way of sworn affidavits. This is indeed a JOKE.

Post #5 By nanatrucker, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

  entered another questionable relationship.In my opinion you are the problem here, not the victim. You seem to seek out trouble and once there do nothing. As for Cornwall I refer you to my previous post. Ignorance and lack of experience are the problems. That ignorance makes the city an easy target for the situations that exist.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By itinerant, 7 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote: Dearest ItineRANT:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOh, touchy, touchy, what's your job here, to be nice to anybody who agrees with you and attack and insult those of whom you don't even know what they are talking about, or what? Listen Pal, I was sexually, physically and mentally abused in a foster home for years in the 50's so don't even go there about me not being a victim! I can now understand about the inbreeding thingee up there, you're a perfect example of the failed end result! Toodle-doo for now cutie, I'm sure I'll hear from a gutless wonder like yourself who hides behind the keyboard as you're not man or woman enough for anything else. Say, what are you, a man or a woman or are you kinda stuck in the middle, know what I mean? Bait all you want sucker!!! You're a failure at that too!!!
Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By armagedon, 5 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

If you have set precedence by going public and some form of trial ensued, what were the results?? You owe it to the people in Cornwall.There is nothing better then an existing public forum to stir the pot. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By itinerant, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Your Comment: Gee, somehow I didn't think you had the parts to trade barbs with any great intellect and it looks like I was right but to answer your question about "what were the results?" who said I owe ANYTHING to Corwall or the people as when I tried to help, it was forgotten about and I was deceived by one of your CCR citizens, just ask Paul Scott about THAT! I have gone public, I've been in the Legislature involved with the formation of the Provincial Advocate for Children's and Youth, I'm also working with several MPP's, help out with abuse marches here in Toronto with my lawyer who is suing the CAS for me in the amount of about $5 million. And if that isn't good enough for you, I've had a certain Police Service in front of the IPC for 3 years now and just to help you out seeing as how you think you're so smart and a go getter, the IPC stands for Information Privacy Commission. Tell me, just what have you done other than moan and groan and do nothing except mouth off and you aren't even smart enough to do that with any amount of intellect.If you want to know about the "dolts" in Cornwall, just look at the joke you all call the Inquiry. All you have is different organizations pointing fingers at each other and blaming each other if you had have gotten together and started "civil suits" against the various organizations rather than this farce which won't solve anything except be a make work project for all of those organizations and to make the lawyers richer than they already are. My lawyer forsaw what would happen at the Inquiry and it happened EXACTLY that way, so we sue the CAS and when that's done, we then sue the Police Service using the evidence that we have already gathered with the CAS and the IPC and use it against the Police. Pretty simple really and I'm not even a legal beagle but have learned right quickly just how to do a lot mostly by trial and error but I'm a quick learner. And talking about existing forums to stir the pot, what are you referring to, the Inquiry? That's one of the biggest jokes going, unfortunately for those that have been abused it's not a joke but just another nail in their coffins. There you go, do you think you can handle and digest just this little bit of info that I've given you or do you have to be "spoon fed"? Toodles Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By armagedon, 29 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 Dude I agree with you, and have never said anything to the contrary. But if you want vindication as much as you claim, I would think as a self proclaimed intellctual, you would be happy to take the whole shi*t house down. Not just try and extort money and march a little. An ignorant rant does not show intellect. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By itinerant, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Your Comment: Vindication as you say I claim, I'm getting it, just what are you people getting for your money with the Inquiry, poorer that's all and the abused are being forgotten. Extortion and a little marching, that's rich, what do you do, talk everybody to death or just bore them to death? I'll answer to the extortion part, it is payment for how my life has been upset and partially ruined, the loss of my whole childhood and most of my life thanks to the CAS and THAT is why people sue civilly. As far as a self proclaimed intellectual, you said it, I didn't but I will tell you this though you're right, I am a very intelligent intellect. And I'm going backwards on this but vindication are YOUR words, not mine, I'm working within the different legal and political ways that I can to help STOP and PREVENT the abuse of more kids and THAT'S what I claim! Now back to the end of your petty post, I think that someone who accuses someone of "an ignorant rant does not show intellect" should go back to school or get a dictionary or maybe something simpler than that and learn how to spell! At the end of your second sentence, the very last word "intellctual" and think if you had half the brain and 1/4 of the smarts you think you have, you obviously should know that the word is "INTELLECTUAL". And that's your lesson for today as I gather from your writing, you can't handle a lot at one time so I'll just leave it at that. And maybe next time, I'll use simpler words and shorter sentences and less of them so you just might get it. And talk about what you were saying about my reference to that inbreeding thingee and you mentioned it was just "ignorance" were you talking about the rest of Cornwall or which part pertains to you? Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By armagedon, 34 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

My spelling, you might want to check the spelling of your name, and most of your post. Not to mention grammar and punctuation. You keep going on about your issues. This shows you are selfish and greedy and care little for anyone else. Your post “you should see this other Mayor I'm involved with.” shows are slanderous and are attracted to unique individuals. Therapy can help with that. You choose to live a sorted lifestyle while trying to extort money from it.If you need sympathy it is in the dictionary right between sh*t and syphilis. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By itinerant, 21 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:   

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 26 February 2008 “Ex city cop won’t testify

Thank you for your interpretation of my words, James. What I am saying is it would be good for everyone involved if we could receive facts from people present in certain circumstances ... all people. I believe if Ms. Sebalj said she ordered to hide the file that might help us all understand what was happening inside our city's police force at the time.  

I take great offense at your suggestion I am pretending nothing really happened and it was just a bad storm. It was a devastating series of events in our community and it continues to this day. You left this community, James, did you not? At least some of us had the mettle to stick it out here and try to get to the truth. I know it's not likely we'll ever actually find it, but at least we're trying. At least we're questioning things. I can't say for certain what would have happened between Ms. Sebalj and anyone she spoke with or received orders from. All I am saying is I'm disappointed she can't tell us herself.

My heart has been with the victims since day one, James, and my body has physically remained at their sides. I did not leave in order to build a better or different life. I did not abandon my home. I love this city, with all of its heartache and sadness and brilliance and joy. There are people I've met because of these investigations, the trials and this inquiry who have enriched my life beyond measure. It's these people for whom I hope someday, somehow, we'll know how it all went down. I'm not holding just my breath. I'm just keeping a quiet prayer for its possibility.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By LocalReader, 19 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

And it's certainly NOT that I don't believe Mr. Dunlop. I believe him without fail. I just wish the people in this community who DON'T believe him could hear the same stories he's been telling come out of the mouths of others. It would force the non-believers to at least consider the fact Mr. Dunlop has been telling the truth all along.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #7 By LocalReader, 19 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Dear "LOCAL READER": "touchy?"  

 Typically Cornwall. Let's try to shame or label people, who challenge us or oppose us. BELIEVE me, this will change; the people will "use" their voices and there will be "change".YOU seem to know a little about me. How much?I left Cornwall, in part, with my family, to survive and because I was threatened, by one of the accused; that's a good healthy decision, by the way. Oh, the accused, he "walked."

BELIEVE me, I may have moved, but I never left, as many, many people KNOW. Instead, you attempt to "shame" me, how typical.

I have one big chunk of flesh, in Cornwall.     

Also, I have many extended family members and friends, I visit often. Many Cornwall citizen's have told me, "this can only be fought and disclosed" from people outside the community.IF you know any more about me, you know how I have been fighting and for how long. I hope to help others WIN, "so-to-speak." DID you "speak-out" in the day or are you, for some reason, "in desperation" lately?HOWEVER, some people in Cornwall for whatever reason, "cannot or will not" come in "out of the storm", as you put it. THEY, for some reason cannot or will not see the light. IS it "blind faith" or "special interest."COMMENTS written on different blogs, such as written above and people, unwilling to testify, certainly, suggest "MANY" people know the facts, but "don't trust" and choose NOT, to come forward. THIS TOO, will change in Cornwall. 

Wouldn't you agree, many people ARE afraid to "speak out" or is it "raining too hard" where you are "sitting?"WHY do you think Heidi has been so disabled for so long. 

I suggest Heidi became a police constable with positive goals and an exciting career to look forward to. WHAT do you think happened?IF you have truly been around since 1993 and still see things as naively as you do, then, I can't say much more, neither can anyone.

BUT, there is NO doubt in my mind, many, many Cornwall citizen's KNOW the truth.NO, yet, once more, you are wrong and your attempt has failed, I've never really left Cornwall.

James P. Bateman
Kitchener, Ontario

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By James "SPEAK OUT", 5 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I have been in Cornwall since long before 1993. I know dozens of victims on an acquaintance level and many on a very personal level. I am one of the lucky ones. I was not abused as a young person. But I have sat with many victims as they poured out their heart and souls and I have no doubt as to the truth of their experiences. I have sat in courtrooms (every single Project Truth trial as well as countless others) and cried right along with them, their families and other supporters.Do not assume, James, that you may know me. You know nothing of my mind. Read back over my posts and you'll see I am trying to make one, simple point: the more people who come forward to provide evidence of a cover-up or collusion, the better. That is it.

You see conspiracy around every corner, James. I do not. But I can recognize it when I see it. It happened here, make no mistake about it. Not one word I've written suggests I believe otherwise. If you choose to read between my words and reach conclusions which suit your own agenda, I suppose I cannot stop you. But please do not assume to know my mind.

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By LocalReader, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

LocalReader and James "SPEAK OUT",You two are a perfect showing as to why this travesty can be exploited by our legal system. Do not fight amongst yourselves and there is no need for insults.Our system is so demented and designed to pit the innocent and the ignorant against each other. The media is distributes enough misinformation to fuel the fire. Tabloids like Osprey thrive on it. All the while the criminals go free and the legal system and politicians get rich.Turn your anger to the system and not each other

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 27 February 2008 “Evidence 'all over the place' in sex assault trial: lawyer

so a victim is mistaken about who molested them i doubt that very much seems that is what the lawyers want us all to believe victims always remember who molested them because it affects them for the rest of their lives stop coddling the molesters start sentencing them properly for the crimes they have committed destroy a childs life then destroy their lives

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By Dodger, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Lets hope the victim isn't accused as a WHISTLE BLOWER. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By Laurie J, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

i always wondered who in the hell would even consider defended piece of crap like them.they can,t need the work that bad could they.i hope its not paid for by legal aid

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Comments posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 27 February 2008 “Former cop's psychologist should testify: attorney

I would like to know how they are going to do this. Who was on the selection committee of this fine undertaking?"The inquiry is expected to hear from a number of witnesses in the coming weeks that will speak to how the Cornwall police force handled historical allegations of abuse"

Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By itinerant, 50 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

www.bishop-accountability.org/abusetracker for daily verified coverage of the ongoing criminal-cover up, pedophile enabling, of the miters and red hats, of the Roman Catholic Church, as well as daily embezzlement of laity funds.Benedict XVI the Pontiff & Sinner
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So frank horn who is a lawyer for the coalition for action is so concerned for Ms Sebalj's condition that he as a lawyer I would allege is not believing the physchologist and the fact that this Ms Sebalj's has been "under care" for the past 10 years for over-whelming anxiety and stress. It would appear to me that good old frank doesn't give a damn about the cop who was stuck in that situation and what it might do to her IF she could even get on the stand. I was sexually, physically and mentally abused in a foster home in the 50's and for someone to have to investigate and be involved with something so complicated and stressful especially for any cop who was on the force with all of the warped, sick individuals and you know the groups I mean, they had to deal with she's lucky she can still function at all. You know, through-out all of this crap that I've been reading about, the one thing that stands out above all else is that EVERYBODY thinks they're right and EVERYBODY ELSE is wrong and somehow NONE of the parties involved in this farce of an Inquiry appear able to understand that there is room to actually allow someone to disagree or agree even if it's with the opposite side. All I've heard about is a bunch of lawyers and different groups arguing about this and that and the BLOODY VICTIMS are left hanging out to dry. Nice of the Citizen's of Cornwall and the Inquiry to abuse those that have already been abused for decades again, I betcha it gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling to know that those that have been abused are slowly dying off from old age or suicide or have completely given up hope that the Inquiry will ever get to the bottom of anything. This whole episode has been an absolute joke from the start to now. I offered Paul Scott the name and info of a professional therapist who would be able to help the abused over a year ago and gave him the qualifications of Mr. Hall about a year ago and he "forgot" all about it until I reminded him of it this past weekend. Mr. Jim Hall(416-281-7301 Ex 4160 & he'll take calls) travels all over the Northern Aboriginal reserves setting up programs with the elders to help those that have been the victim of abuse and HE is the man that places like the Homewood in Guelph contact when they need his expertise. He has written a reference book and during the day he takes care of children and parents with problems at Rouge Valley Health Systems (Shonicker Bldg.)and runs several groups for Adult Male Victims of Sexual and Physical Abuse which I go to for 3 hrs every Weds night and have been going for over 3 years. It's the hardest thing I've ever been involved in and then I hear about Paul Scott and the Concerned Citizens for Renewal deciding they would have a "Visioning Day" to help the abused and then they spent most of their time wondering why only a few abused showed up. Gee, I wonder why? Most of them can't come to terms (like I couldn't)with the abuse in their own heads so just why and how in the name of God do these "do gooders" think they'll get many out into the public? The do gooders will probably out number the abused probably about 5 or 10 to one. Any other do-gooder groupies want to sit around the campfire and sing "cum by ya my Lord!" which will probably do more for the morale of the groupies and the do-gooders than it will for the abused. Yours, ArmagedonReply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By armagedon, 5 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I agree,I mean I'm not the brightest light in the room but even I understand Doctor/Patient confidentiality and also the Privacy Laws via the Information Privacy Commission so, good old frank and the coalition can file an FOI and they're concerned that the abuse is being covered up. My light might not be the brightest but it sure isn't as dim as the above mentioned. And I guess this good old frank hasn't heard of the PSA(Police Services Act), it's what cops use to hide behind just ask the Police Services in my old town and they blatantly lied regarding my case.Not wanting to insult the whole city of Cornwall but are people there that stupid or is there something to the concept about this whole alleged inbreeding thingee we keep hearing about?

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Post #4 was in regards to Post #1 "itinerant" so can anybody help as this is the first time I've driven this "jalopy"! How or can I reply so that people know what or who I'm replying to without typing out their name? I hit reply to Post #1 but nothing in my Post #4 would indicate that. Have patience with me people, not only do I have a bit of a warped sense of humour, I also don't live in Cornwall(thank God or whoever's in charge!) but live in the normal quiet berg of Toronto. And you think you guys have troubles with the law, ask the Criminal Lawyers Association of Ontario about the laws in Toronto, better still, ask the Attorney General or the Minister of Public Safety & Corrections. I'd ask you all to send us someone to take the place of our Mayor but I guess your "stupids" are a lot like our "stupids", they just live in different cities, actually I think I'd be closer if I said they're from another Planet from the sounds of it! ThanksReply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By armagedon, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Armageddon.Great points but unfortunately they all fall on deaf ears.You made two points that stand out very strongly and are very true. " I betcha it gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling to know that those that have been abused are slowly dying off from old age or suicide or have completely given up hope that the Inquiry will ever get to the bottom of anything. "That statement is true to how the whole of eastern Ontario is run and not only with regards to this inquiry. "Not wanting to insult the whole city of Cornwall but are people there that stupid or is there something to the concept about this whole alleged inbreeding thingee we keep hearing about?"Not necessarily inbreeding but a definite case of ignorance. Not an insulting ignorance but a lack of insight and broader experiences to base decisions on. Why else would we have a Mayor that did nothing as an MP? The area is looking for a security blanket. But due to the ignorance they are all full of holes and we are exploited because of it.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By itinerant, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Itinerant
Thanks for the reply but I just can't help but think that this is just one "get rich quick" schemes for the lawyers and good stall tactics and added cover-ups for the cops, churches, judiciary, ministers and people who don't want the truth to come out. I've seen more action watching paint dry than this Inquiry and you know what, painting and watching it dry had more of a purpose and usefullness than this Inquiry and the people running around saying it didn't happen, not in Cornwall! Good thing Domtar is closing but that ****ty smell will forever stay in Cornwall and it has nothing to do with Domtar and everthing to do with the brain dead citizens of Cornwall. I could tell you stories that would make Cornwall and it's cops look like "Angels" and it's happening right now with the abuse done to me and the NIMBY of a certain Police Service and its city. And if you think your Mayor is something, you should see this other Mayor I'm involved with. 
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 Armageddon.You are rambling. Unless I misunderstood which I apologies and if I have, you have entered another questionable relationship.In my opinion you are the problem here, not the victim. You seem to seek out trouble and once there do nothing. As for Cornwall I refer you to my previous post. Ignorance and lack of experience are the problems. That ignorance makes the city an easy target for the situations that exist.  Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By itinerant, 7 hours ago | -1 Votes | Vote:

Dearest ItineRANT:
OOOOOOOOOOOOOh, touchy, touchy, what's your job here, to be nice to anybody who agrees with you and attack and insult those of whom you don't even know what they are talking about, or what? Listen Pal, I was sexually, physically and mentally abused in a foster home for years in the 50's so don't even go there about me not being a victim! I can now understand about the inbreeding thingee up there, you're a perfect example of the failed end result! Toodle-doo for now cutie, I'm sure I'll hear from a gutless wonder like yourself who hides behind the keyboard as you're not man or woman enough for anything else. Say, what are you, a man or a woman or are you kinda stuck in the middle, know what I mean? Bait all you want sucker!!! You're a failure at that too!!!
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If you have set precedence by going public and some form of trial ensued, what were the results?? You owe it to the people in Cornwall.There is nothing better then an existing public forum to stir the pot.    Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By itinerant, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Your Comment: Gee, somehow I didn't think you had the parts to trade barbs with any great intellect and it looks like I was right but to answer your question about "what were the results?" who said I owe ANYTHING to Corwall or the people as when I tried to help, it was forgotten about and I was deceived by one of your CCR citizens, just ask Paul Scott about THAT! I have gone public, I've been in the Legislature involved with the formation of the Provincial Advocate for Children's and Youth, I'm also working with several MPP's, help out with abuse marches here in Toronto with my lawyer who is suing the CAS for me in the amount of about $5 million. And if that isn't good enough for you, I've had a certain Police Service in front of the IPC for 3 years now and just to help you out seeing as how you think you're so smart and a go getter, the IPC stands for Information Privacy Commission. Tell me, just what have you done other than moan and groan and do nothing except mouth off and you aren't even smart enough to do that with any amount of intellect.If you want to know about the "dolts" in Cornwall, just look at the joke you all call the Inquiry. All you have is different organizations pointing fingers at each other and blaming each other if you had have gotten together and started "civil suits" against the various organizations rather than this farce which won't solve anything except be a make work project for all of those organizations and to make the lawyers richer than they already are. My lawyer forsaw what would happen at the Inquiry and it happened EXACTLY that way, so we sue the CAS and when that's done, we then sue the Police Service using the evidence that we have already gathered with the CAS and the IPC and use it against the Police. Pretty simple really and I'm not even a legal beagle but have learned right quickly just how to do a lot mostly by trial and error but I'm a quick learner. And talking about existing forums to stir the pot, what are you referring to, the Inquiry? That's one of the biggest jokes going, unfortunately for those that have been abused it's not a joke but just another nail in their coffins. There you go, do you think you can handle and digest just this little bit of info that I've given you or do you have to be "spoon fed"? Toodles  Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By armagedon, 29 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Dude I agree with you, and have never said anything to the contrary. But if you want vindication as much as you claim, I would think as a self proclaimed intellctual, you would be happy to take the whole shi*t house down. Not just try and extort money and march a little. An ignorant rant does not show intellect.  Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By itinerant, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Your Comment: Vindication as you say I claim, I'm getting it, just what are you people getting for your money with the Inquiry, poorer that's all and the abused are being forgotten. Extortion and a little marching, that's rich, what do you do, talk everybody to death or just bore them to death? I'll answer to the extortion part, it is payment for how my life has been upset and partially ruined, the loss of my whole childhood and most of my life thanks to the CAS and THAT is why people sue civilly. As far as a self proclaimed intellectual, you said it, I didn't but I will tell you this though you're right, I am a very intelligent intellect. And I'm going backwards on this but vindication are YOUR words, not mine, I'm working within the different legal and political ways that I can to help STOP and PREVENT the abuse of more kids and THAT'S what I claim! Now back to the end of your petty post, I think that someone who accuses someone of "an ignorant rant does not show intellect" should go back to school or get a dictionary or maybe something simpler than that and learn how to spell! At the end of your second sentence, the very last word "intellctual" and think if you had half the brain and 1/4 of the smarts you think you have, you obviously should know that the word is "INTELLECTUAL". And that's your lesson for today as I gather from your writing, you can't handle a lot at one time so I'll just leave it at that. And maybe next time, I'll use simpler words and shorter sentences and less of them so you just might get it. And talk about what you were saying about my reference to that inbreeding thingee and you mentioned it was just "ignorance" were you talking about the rest of Cornwall or which part pertains to you?  Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By armagedon, 34 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

My spelling, you might want to check the spelling of your name, and most of your post. Not to mention grammar and punctuation. You keep going on about your issues. This shows you are selfish and greedy and care little for anyone else. Your post “you should see this other Mayor I'm involved with.” shows are slanderous and are attracted to unique individuals. Therapy can help with that. You choose to live a sorted lifestyle while trying to extort money from it.If you need sympathy it is in the dictionary right between sh*t and syphilis.   Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By itinerant, 21 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote: ……………………………………………………………..  

Comments on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to Ex-city cop won’t testify (26 February 2008)

I think you did a good job Heidi.

I must ask again has Brian (The Bus Driver) Snider been asked any questions yet? I remember Brian there as well during the interview, There was also another gentleman whom I cannot recall. All identified as someone from the local Police. Was Brian not a senior and able to aid you in your research? What about the other constable?Did they leave you out to dry, rather then practice due diligence?

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"Itinerant". YES, I believe Heidi was "badly" misused and abused, in this whole "sordid" affair. I just wish she, with other local professionals and prominent citizens, could find a "safe" environment to "OPENLY" "spill their guts", "so-to-speak". TOO late and will never voluntarily happen."itinerant", YOU seem to know more than the average "John Doe"...."the bus driver" is very important, who for reasons, like others, will avoid "confrontation"....for now.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By James "SPEAK OUT", 4 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I understand Ms. Sebalj's mental health is in a tenuous state and that's unfortunate on so many levels. This storm which passed through our community for so many years left in its wake destroyed careers and destroyed lives. I do not believe she, or anyone else for that matter (including Mr. Dunlop) should be forced to testify at the Cornwall Public Inquiry. 
I do, however, wish we, as a community, could finally hear if something we've heard for years from Mr. Dunlop is true: was Ms. Sebalj ordered by her superiors to hide the file containing the information regarding David Silmser's allegations and the resulting payoff? For so long, Mr. Dunlop has talked about walking into the offices of the Cornwall police so many years ago and, in his words, witnessing Ms. Sebalj "deep-sixing" the file. She was only doing what she had been ordered to do, Mr. Dunlop has said. I am not sure if we've ever heard Ms. Sebalj's version of that particular event, but I do believe that if she stood up and said, "Yes, I was ordered to hide it away," that would at least lend some credibility to the concept some folks in some high places were trying to cover some things up.   

I hope Ms. Sebalj is improving and I hope she can someday find peace and serenity in her life. I pray the same for everyone in this community.

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" James SPEAK OUT" I know what I know and many other know things they will not expose either. A former politician can cross out names on evidence aka evidence tampering, and a local lawyer can dismiss abuse reported by a potential victim. Why would anyone want to talk about any of this in the open?Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By itinerant, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

"LocalReader"; do I interpret your writing accurately, in that, "YOU" are looking for "truth" and you were hoping Heidi was going to provide it, by giving her "version" of representations Perry Dunlop made? ARE you for real "LocalReader"? 

Where have you been for all these years? IN the event Heidi did testify as to her "version", as you say, do you really believe she would have been "able" to disclose the facts?IF you are truly under the belief or "hope" that Heidi's "version" or "the bus driver's" version or countless others' "versions", would be an accurate depiction of the "facts", then all I can say is, please go back to your "Reader's Digest" and continue pretending, "nothing really happened...just a bad storm."

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I agree, "itinerant". Point taken. I offer peace.

JamesReply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By James "Speak Out", 4 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I agree, "itinerant". Point taken. I offer peace.

James

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Comments on Perry Dunlop Target of Persecution, Freeholder Editorial 23 February 2008 

WAY TO GO, Joy. I agree with you. YOU and others are brave to "spaek out". KEEP IT UP!!SEE other blogs/comments by many people who share your opinion. (On other articeles/editorials on this "Standard-Freeholder" website, space. WAY TO GO!!

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WEll Joy if you really want to help go on comp and search Perry Dunlop and you will get any info you need to help or read everything that has gone on since the beginng of this farce. You are right he should not be in jail for what he did. We have seen by what has gone on in this inquiry that there are many others who should be charged including the CAS for there lack of care of clients welfare.

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............................................................................ Comments on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website re   23 February 2008: Many abuse victims still keeping mum Better to be mum then in jailReply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By itinerant, 1 day ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

Paul Scott's true colors were detected from the very beginning when he showed up. Don't ask why the victims are not there. Comments like the "itinerant" just explains the reason you're standing by yourself. My hat to the victims. Because they were sexually abused doesn't mean they can't read between the lines and detect false "protectors". And for the ones who still believe in Paul Scott, shame on you Scott.Carmen Prégent
CasselmanReply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By Kieosha, 21 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote: survivers have to step forward and take the lead.well i think they steped forward many years ago and what did they get surelly it wasn't help when they truley needed it.save your breath and save your money.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By luckyred, 18 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote: I agree. Many people in Cornwall may have difficult financial times and may not all have Ph.D's, but "THEY ARE NOT STUPID." IN fact, in most cases "victims" are much more "perceptive" than your "average John Doe." "Many sexual abuse victims still keeping MUM" is a "sign", telling how many victims and citiaen's who know the facts, really feel. THEY have been "SCREAMING" this "silence" to "officials" and "the Inquiry" for years. BUT the "officials" didn't UNDERSTAND or DID NOT want to UNDERSTAND!!! "Officials" would NOT "listen", they would just control and lie to control, because of their own "interests."

"Keeping Mum" is a "defense mechanism used to "SURVIVE". "VICTIMS" and the citizen's of Cornwall, who know the "facts", also know "HOW TO SURVIVE!!!" KEEPING MUM is one "symptom" of "not trusting", despite all the candies and false promises, "officials" and their "false representatives" give, trying to "control them."
"VICTIMS" and "those who know" are NOT stupid!!! "KEEPIN MUM" is a "symptom" of a "closed system", plagued with distrust. PEOPLE know, over time, who the "false prophets" are. People know, who has "tried to bleed into the fabric of the Cornwall society", to TRICK "victims" and others, into trusting them, with "false" claims, trying to induce "them" to come forward. "Victims and the citizens of Cornwall who know the facts" are NOT STUPID!!, so don't treat them that way. "WAY TO GO CORNWALL" "WAY TO SPEAK OUT!!" 

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This group of comments is posted in response to “Even Solomon Would be Scratching his Head” on the  www.noapologies.ca website  Karol Karolak said: Al, you wrote quote, "Fairness dictates that he shouldn't be allowed to dodge cross-examination by lawyers for people whose lives have been turned upside down by the allegations his initial investigation uncovered."You seem to be confused as Cornwall Public Inquiry is not a criminal trial. "People whose lives have been turned upside down by the allegations Dunlop uncovered" are not charged with any crimes. If and when they get charged and face time in jail, than their lawyers should be allowed to cross-examine their accusers, their victims, witnesses and police that conducted investigation but not before.This whole Inquiry is a sham as it does not have a mandate to assign criminal responsibility but it uses all the coercive tools of criminal trial. In that sense criminals in charge immune from prosecution have managed to put victims, witnesses and police that investigated these crimes on trial. Even if there was no pedophile ring operating in Cornwall by the look of things there seems to be ring of pedophile protectors in charge of Cornwall Public Inquiry.

February 22, 2008 8:55 AM Ron Payne said: Good luck Perry Dunlop.Pedophilia is alive and well in Canada.
http://archive.hiddenfromhistory.org/html/guatemalan.htmlWe should not be shooting the messengers.We should be jailing the criminals.

February 22, 2008 8:31 PM Holly Desimone said: This is my response after doing an interview for the newspaper, Sylvia emailed me. Hi Sylvia,I ALSO DID OFFER SYLVIA THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH ME IN RESPECT TO THIS MATTER. I know we have never met. I will try to answer your questions. I have been emailing reporters, who are covering this story. Yes, I been following the Dunlop's Story and his interviews.I am not condemning the man, my point is not as you stated in your email. "You don't know the man you condemn. That's a shame"My point is this is part of the Canada's Judicial Process. Which I know about, have studied, not just because of my case.Any inquiry is important part in our judicial system. Until something can replace this fundamental part of justice we need to respect the inquiry. Finding out what can be done to improve, make recommendations for the judicial process.Many of us affected by sexual violence do not even get to be in a courtroom for a number of reasons. Many of us even when we go to the police are not believed. The inquiry process is still important in my opinion. Think of the wrongfully convicted, think of the women murdered in Canada, many victims of child abuse. Should we not have an inquiry into that. To read that a former police officer would rather have a gun put to his head. Perry Dunlop was trained as police office, won a award for courage and integrity is not willing to go and testify at the inquiry, in my opinion is appalling.I had to go public to catch a serial rapist. Do you know what that was like for myself and the other women in our case? No...Perry Dunlop is making a mockery of our judicial process in Canada.Jail is not the answer, he could go to the inquiry and take the stand.Then if he feels after giving his evidence to the inquiry that it is not the best way to address the child abuse matter, he could have a press conference to address what is wrong with the inquiry process. But to not even go and remain in jail in my opinion is wrong. To make the statement as I mentioned the gun to his head, do you not feel offered by those comments.Think out of the box, to the larger picture.What does that message say to the many sexual abuse survivors in our country?The ones who are assaulted as I type this email to you.I hope this addresses your questions because again it is my opinion, the inquiry is a process.WHAT IS BEING DONE BY SITTING IN JAIL? WHAT CAN BE DONE TO MAKE THIS SITUATION BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE OF CORNWALL?Sincerely Holly Desimone----- Original Message -----
From: cornwall
To: Holly
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: To the Cornwall InquiryHi HollyI just read your comments in today's Freeholder. How did Trevor Pritchard ever get in touch with you? I am intrigued.Regarding your comments both to me by email and in the Freeholder.First and foremost. This inquiry is supposed to be an inquiry Holly. Not a trial. Justice Glaude has said many many times that it is not a trial. True, it is being conducted like a trial. i.e., one VICTIM charged with obstruction of justice, (charges dismissed after a year of agony, humiliation and scraping to get the dollars together to defend himself) and then Perry Dunlop persecuted, prosecuted and behind bars (this don;t ever forget after he was told no one would be forced to testify against their will and he and Helen would not be forced to return to Cornwall. And all that after he made it abundantly clear that he has no faith in the mandate of the inquiry and believes it is a continuation of the cover-up).Are you aware the Perry Dunlop HAS testified - in a court of law? With judge, Crown attorney and banks of defence lawyers tearing away at him and not one soul in the courtroom trying to set the record straight?Are you aware that Perry testified more than once?Are you aware that in one instance he was brought in under false pretences and when asked for one was denied a lawyer - for the four days he was on the stand?Are you aware that in another instance he virtually tried and convicted in absentia - although he had been charged with nothing?Are you aware that in two instances two "alleged" paedophiles "walked" to freedom on Perry Dunlop's back? - with the aid of judges, defence lawyers and Crown attorneys alike?.How may times do you want him to take the stand so that those who have no interest in the facts or getting paedophiles off the streets and out of the sanctuaries can sleep tight at night?I know you weren't at any of the Project Truth trials. Few were. However I am also gathering from your comments that you do not know and have never talked to Perry Dunlop?If you knew him you would know that if there so much a glimmer of hope that one single child would be spared the horror and agony of sexual abuse if he went back to the Weave Shed he would be there in a heart beat.You don't know the man you condemn. That's a shame.SylviaThis from Holly Desimone,In all of this mess, Perry Dunlop is sitting in a jail, making comments like he would rather have a gun put to his head....etc. Instead of being at the inquiry? I think it very frustrating to survivors of violent crime to know this former police officer would prefer that when he could be providing answers to help in the fight against sexual violence. PERRY IF SOMEONE AT THE JAIL GETS TO READ THIS TO YOU. PLEASE CONSIDER.... WHAT GOOD YOU WOULD BE DOING IF YOU WENT BEFORE THE INQUIRY..... PERRY DUNLOP YOU TOOK A OATH TO SERVE AND PROTECT. THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION, YOU HAVE STATED YOUR A MAN OF COURAGE.... SHOW US THAT COURAGE.....NOT FROM BEHIND A JAIL CELL. THINK OF THE MANY FAMILIES THAT HAVE NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO GET AN INQUIRY INTO A LOVED ONE'S BEING VIOLATED. THINK OF ALL THE MONEY BEING SPENT TO KEEP YOU IN PROTECTIVE CUSTODY.

February 22, 2008 11:13 PM Sylvia MacEachern said: I was quite taken aback to discover that Holly posted what I considered to be private correspondence on this website. I am ashamed of nothing I had to say, but, yes - taken aback.Holly first contacted me by email the day before the Trevor Pritchard article. I was surprised that on the heels of that email I should see her name in the Cornwall Standard Freeholder. I have never heard of Holly before this. Now she is at war against Perry Dunlop. All passing strange I'd say. But, that's the history of the Cornwall sex abuse scandal and cover-up. I repeat publicly what I told Holly privately: you do not know the man you condemn.Sylvia  

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23 February 2008 series of comments posted on Standard Freeholder website in response to “Perry did this to himselfWELL, well. I was wondering where Mr. McIntosh had been lately.I suppose it is time...."dispatch" the old boy in to "spin" some more. CONCENTRATE on DUNLOP, must be "the message", not the travesty unfolding down the street at the "Cornwall Public Inquiry", "focus on Dunlop."  Conspiracy "theorists"?? HA!! Old "news"!! "Same old, same old...since 1993." Can anyone say, "Glenn=Stor-Dunn Lodge" (nursing home).No "unfounded" "conspiracy theories" here, "just the facts!!"HOWEVER, ALL issues since in or before 1993 are difficult for many people to accept or understand. Remarkably, many citizen's of Cornwall, know the "facts" and are beginning to "speak out"!! WAY TO GO!! MANY, many people, in Cornwall know "the facts" and "the spin" will work NO MORE!! Everyone with exception of a few.DOES anyone wonder why the "spin boys" can only "name call", "pigeon hole" the opposition and their opinions, "demean" opposing views, "put down" critical perspectives and reference "disputed facts" they support to "back-up" their "attacks"? They like to quote "un-named" "secret agents-power brokers", as credible references, to support their assertions.I remind you people, AS YOU KNOW, watch out for "DESPERATE PEOPLE, PLACES and THINGS"! I believe, we are "there" now. KEEP watching, "brave citizens of Cornwall".Isn't it nice to see many "Cornwall citizen's "speaking out" about what they know or expressing the opinions they have? WAY TO GO!!(The wash is "on the way" to the cleaner's.)P.S. Watch the backlash I receive to this "simple, fair-comment, opinion based, comment/blog." WATCH!!WATCH how it has always worked in Cornwall; WATCH why people were and many are, still afraid. THIS can ALL change.James P. Bateman
Kitchener, Ontario

  how come claude you dont use your editorial skills and demand ron leroux face charges for pergary.i my self talked to the inquiry investagetors and demanded ron leroux be charged.there reply he did nothing wrong he told the truth on the stand.figure that one out claude.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By luckyred, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Because Claude is too daft to realize what Perry is trying to do...still after all this time. Sure he had the RCMP come and get him, how else would he show the public how wrong this whole thing is. If it were up to Claude everything should be kept quiet and to the book so no one ever realizes what a huge deal this is..isn't it your job Claude to notify the public of current affairs. And as for your vietnam comment, "Like a seasoned army colonel told his untested battalion before the first big battle in the Vietnam War, "I'm not going to ask you to do anything that I'm not prepared to do." " there is still alot of people suffering from that ordeal and what they went through there..and there is also alot of people from vietnam who survived the war but never survived the aftermath when they returned home and the only way to deal with it was commit suicide...now you expect Perry to go through an an awful ordeal that might be too much for him to handle...you are a disgrace!Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By Cope, 55 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I am in complete agreement with McIntosh..He echoes the same sentiments and observations about Dunlop which I have previously stated..The old saying is true..when one repeats a lie or half truths often enough, people will believe that it is the truth when in fact it is not...They are blind sighted..It seems that McIntosh is able to report the issues correctly, but others refuse to accept the facts and rely only on lies and half truths as being factual..Keep up the good work McIntosh..You are bang on this time conerning Dunlop Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By Observer123, 10 mins ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

BEWARE, the "McIntosh's and Observer123" types. IN my opinion, only someone who is brutally ignorant, naive, complicit to the "cover-up" or terrified and desperate, would continue to "deny" "the elephant in the front room." BUT, get ready; TIME WILL DEFINITELY REVEAL ALL, and, the TIME is quickly approaching. WAY TO GO CITIZEN'S of Cornwall, who are "speaking out".KEEP IT UP!!Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By James "SPEAK OUT" 

mister McIntosh you are an ass an ignorant one but still an ass spear and attack the people that will open our eyes and defend the people that have tried to keep our eyes closed for years people are not blind and people will make up their own minds about what has gone on in our town sooner or later the truth does surface Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By Dodger, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 I think Perry is a nice man he is a HERO if you want kids to get sexualy abbused than thats just wrong and perry tried to stop that.So why are you going against him? I am 100% with PERRY!! he is a good man not a bad person he was right NOT to TESTIFY you guys are wrong he was right . Do you want the judge and the court members to turn his story around for the way they want it to be. he is a nice person all you people should be fighting with him not AGAINST HIM!!!Shawna 

"YOU GOT IT" exactly, "Dodger, Laurie"It's voices like yours, that will "help" Cornwall to get to a point, where they can "really" begin to heal. IN fact, I believe, the more and more people "speak out", like what is happening lately in some of these forums, the desire for "healing and change" is clear.IN all the blogs I have seen lately, the support for Perry is overwhelming. Some of THE same old, same old, denyers are there, though. IF only ALL citizens new about the people "speaking out" in these blogs...unfortunately, it'll never hit the pages of the "Standard-Freeholder", at least NOT in a positive manner.
WAY TO GO PEOPLE. "YOU KNOW THE FACTS". Perry receives copies of your blogs, the positive and the negative. HE is thankful and emotional about the support. LIKE he mentioned at Divisional Court on Feb. 20, 2008; he talked of new and supportive friends in B.C., but he clearly discussed the friends he still has in Cornwall and the good life he once had, in Cornwall. WAY TO GO!!!
James P. Bateman
Kitchener, Ontario.
Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By James "SPEAK OUT", 7 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

If you get to read this Perry Shawna and I are still 100% behind you. Keep strong!!. Oh and for the record we are not FAMILY members we are friends that CARE!!! Laurie
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CowichanReply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By Laurie J, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Observer 123I will ask you agian DO YOU HAVE CHILDREN?Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By Laurie J, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I can see that McIntosh is as ignorant and uninformed since the very beginning of this issue. Someone would think, as a journalist, he would have taken the time by now to educate himself on the matter. It’s always the same rhetoric. It’s not a man that can read between the lines. Things are either black or white. How shallow. It takes all kind of people to make the world go round. It takes people like him to recognize the existence of ignorance and stupidity in this world. He has always sided with the pedophiles and ridicule Perry Dunlop. One is to wonder!It takes people like Perry to step up to the plate contrary to what McIntosh implies. It’s certainly not the one representing or protecting the pedophiles that would have the courage to expose the corruption. It’s obvious, that McIntosh hasn’t followed the Cornwall Public Inquiry and again, it’s not a man with great insight, so I don’t think he would have understood the games being played at the inquiry. When McIntosh says that the “victims are getting short-changed”, I’m wondering short-changed of what? The victims know the truth; they don’t need Perry to testify. He has testified many times and the justice system has always used Perry as the scapegoat. Have McIntosh, as a journalist, personally questioned Perry as to know the reason why he has opted not to testify? I don’t recall seeing him at the inquiry when Perry showed up. And McIntosh goes on stating that we “made sure that the media were aware of the place and time of the arrest. Wouldn't want them showing up when it was over”. Of course not! For some strange reason, McIntosh doesn’t seem to understand that the public will continue to hold the media to its responsibility to defend the public interest. It can’t get any crazier. And for McIntosh information, the victims are not expecting anything from Perry. They recognize what Perry has done for the cause. If it wouldn’t be for Perry, there wouldn’t be an inquiry, so don’t speak in the name of the victims. You haven’t earned their trust! Don’t insult their intelligence. McIntosh should stick with issue of not great value. This is too big for him. It’s beyond his brain capacity.Carmen Prégent
Casselman
Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By Kieosha, 2 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

Hit the nail on the head with your comments Kieosha! It's too bad that other people that aren't properly informed like Mcintosh will be reading his article and getting ill informed...too bad some of our comments here weren't posted so people could make their own un biased decision instead of reading the garbage Mcintosh wrote...it's a wonder he's even employed with such poor reasearch on a subject. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By Cope, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 It seems that Claude McIntosh in his free time is freelancing for Toronto gay boys. Is he geting paid for his pieces by gay boys or is he seeking publicity in gay community??? Claude you better be careful after such a show of loyalty for homosexual cause homosexuals might fall in love with you and than they might want to make love to you so just to be on a safe side you migh have to wear steel wiremesh reiforced underwear whenever you travel to Toronto (AIDS/HIV is still rampant).Xtra.ca is published by Pink Triangle Press, a not-for-profit organization born out of and committed to the struggle of lesbians and gay men for sexual liberation and human fulfillment. [Links to Gays face fallout after Cornwall paedophile witchhuntPost #15 By karol, 16 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

It seems that Claude McIntosh just love to have chats with Toronto homosexuals.
http://www.xtra.ca/public/viewstory.aspx?&STORY_ID=4188&PUB_TEMPLATE_ID=2Former cop refuses to testify at Cornwall inquiry
LEGAL / Gays faced fallout from paedophile panic
Brent Creelman / Xtra.ca / Tuesday, January 15, 2008Hysteria surrounding the alleged paedophile ring gripped the city when the allegations were made public in the early 1990s. The gay community in Cornwall became vulnerable as the line between homosexuality and paedophilia became blurred. Claude McIntosh, a reporter at the Cornwall Standard-Freeholder, recalls how he received a phone complaint that his paper wasn't doing enough to expose "these homos".When McIntosh pointed out that the caller was lumping homosexuals and paedophiles together, the caller responded: "They're all queers. Instead of burying them they should just chisel their heads and pound them into the ground."Read more of McIntosh's account of how the paedophile panic hurt Cornwall's gay community:  OPINION: Gays face fallout after Cornwall paedophile witchhunt
— Capital Xtra — Fri, Oct 19, 2007
Reply | Report | Page Top Post #16 By karol, 15 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

McIntosh, are you trying to convince yourself.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #17 By Kieosha, 14 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:  …………………………………………………………………………The following grouping of comments in black text were posted on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to   Dunlop will stay locked up Pedophiles beware because if they ever find any of yous guilty all i have to say is jail is not a pretty place and let me tell ya you are going to be treated like the little ***es that yous are and hopefuly yous never make it to PC. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By boone, 2 days ago | 2 Votes | Vote:

 who said no one would be presured or made to testify if they choose not to.i think this statement was put in by that wiesel claude what was this for to keep the peophilies out of the inquirey.people the commisioner of this inquirey can not be belived.he as shown this side of him more that once.i think he should be locked up.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By luckyred, 2 days ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

 Perry Dunlop...now here is a guy who has tainted and may have even possibly falsified evidence, has mis-represnted facts and truths and now is called to task to justify any inaccurries given by witnesses under oath that have been made through his direction. He now doesn't have the nerve of his convictions to step up to the plate and explain what involvement he had,if any, in swaying witness who have now recanted their orginal statements..no wonder he doesn't want to show up, for the truth would come out that possibly he made up a lot of the things himself and very sadly got some poor suckers to go along with him, including his staunch supporters who also have their heads buried in the sand as opposed to actually reading the evidence that has now come out from the inquiry.... for what ever reasons we will never know his motives...Maybe writing a book??? He is no martyr for any cause, just someone who now has gotten caught up in one big lie after another, his own.. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By Observer123, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 Why is Dunlop locked up, simple. They like to hide the truthReply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By itinerant, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 It may sway the courts final decision??? Sounds like they have already come to a decision. What does it matter whether he testifies or not?! He is no longer a member of the Cornwall Police Service, he was basically forced into moving elsewhere. And what baffles me is in 2000 he was the winner of the Ethical Courage Award for standing up for what he believed in, for being the voice of abused children, and now they are treating him as a criminal!!! Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By maggie_may79, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 Observer 123, I find it very difficult to believe there are people who don't believe things like this are being done in society. I know Perry and his family personally. He is a good man, with a wonderful family, and he did what all of us don't have the guts to do. He was in a position to do so, and he did it.. a completely selfless act and you are saying he gave false evidence! Why do you suppose a few of the others who were charged suddenly died before going to court. Why do you suppose my father would tell me stories of some of the local priests and how they were always a little TOO friendly with the boys at St Columbance School. There will always be two laws in this world. One law for the higher ups and one law for the average joe and that's the way it will always be. It's unfortunate but Perry has been trying to put a stop to it and I don't blame him for not testifying, he has said his peace. He will speak again on the matter I have no doubt, but why bother right now when he knows (and he should know out of any of us since he obviously has had the misfortune of working with some of these corrupt people), that the courts have their minds made up! His testimony won't sway them. How much more evidence do we need when children to this day are still being abused by those they are TAUGHT to trust!! It's pathetic!Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By maggie_may79, 1 day ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

 WAY TO GO "Maggie_May". YOU are brave to speak out. WHAT has happened for too long in Cornwall and Area, is just like what "Observer123" is trying to do. A voice like "Observer123" would come up and quickly scare everyone into silence. YOU are brave "Maggie_May" and the others who "speak out" are brave..WAY TO GO. THE people of Cornwall KNOW the truth, I know the truth. EVERYONE I speak to when I go back to Cornwall, know's the truth. THIS could have NOTHING to do with Perry Dunlop, because WE know the truth. DO people trust "The Iquiry"?Now you beginning to "speak out"!!! Strange what happens, when you allow a place for people to "blog".FOR "Observer123" to use Mr. Leroux's so-called statement as evidence of "recanting", after calling him a liar for years, is a sure sign of DESPERATION. SPEAK OUT!! Believe me, "time will tell."Reply | Report | Page Top Post #15 By James "SPEAK OUT", 22 hours ago…………………………………………………………………….  If he finally agrees to testify, that could sway the court's final decision.SOUNDS LIKE BLACKMAIL TO ME!Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By Laurie J, 2 days ago | 4 Votes | Vote:

 Perry Dunlop already told his story and look where it got him he told the truth and now he is in jail. Instead of the inquiry putting all their efforts on someone who told the truth why don't they concentrate on getting the PEDOPHILES. Who side are they on. Looks like the inquiry is for people who abuse children. How many times does one have to repeat themselves before you believe them.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #2 By fay1, 2 days ago | 4 Votes | Vote:

Perry Dunlop already told his story and look where it got him he told the truth and now he is in jail. Instead of the inquiry putting all their efforts on someone who told the truth why don't they concentrate on getting the PEDOPHILES. Who side are they on. Looks like the inquiry is for people who abuse children. How many times does one have to repeat themselves before you believe them. This makes me sickReply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By fay1, 2 days ago | 4 Votes | Vote:

First off Mr. Justice stop watching the clock while hearing is in order, if you have someplace to be why did you bother to take the job, of course the money how stupid of me. We are not cocerned wiht justice here it is called lets get the good guys so the guility can go free. If they are know longer with us because they chose to kill themselves they should still be accountable foe what they did and the lives they ruined.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By What Justice, 2 days ago | 4 Votes | Vote:

Maybe Mr. Glaude is part of this pedophile ring. Maybe that's why Perry Dunlop is being persecuted for telling the truth. I lost faith in the justice system a long, long time ago. This only proves my point.Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By nanatrucker, 2 days ago | 4 Votes | Vote:

what good is forced testimony this man Perry Dunlop did his duty and how does he get paid back he get's thrown in jail for contempt of a system that deserves contempt as for the enquiry it's a big sham meant to discredit any witnessesReply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By Dodger, 2 days ago | 3 Votes | Vote:

Feb 20, 2008. "WAY TO GO CORNWALL-KEEP SPEAKING"I, with people from Cornwall and Area, as well as some people from other areas in Ontario, saw Perry and Helen Dunlop at "Divisional Court" in Toronto today. I voluntarily left the courtroom early. I was getting a little too "hot". I believed Mr. Engelmann and Commissioner Glaude's lawyer, were attempting to misinterpret previous "words" spoken by Commissioner Glaude.
IN any event, Perry made a "fine" presentation. IN his presentation, Perry mentioned that he and the Dunlop family have made good friends in British Columbia. PERRY also mentioned that he misses the many good friends he has in Cornwall; he mentioned he had many "good times", while living in Cornwall. He gave a couple of "examples" of his interactions with the community and with his friends at the police station....when everything "was good"; many of us "teared up".
Perry and Helen seemed very grateful for the people who they have met in their lives and for the support they have received.IT is now in the hands of the Justices of "Divisional Court."WHAT is MORE important and VERY serious right now in the "Cornwall Public Inquiry" as ALL eyes are on PERRY, are the efforts of Lawyers, Manderville and Neville et al, to get testimony, provided by many of the witnesses, "expunged" (erased" from the record.
(Almost all alleged victim and victim testimony)I find this to be "appalling".James P. Bateman
Kitchener, OntarioReply | Report | Page Top Post #7 By James "SPEAK OUT", 2 days ago | 2 Votes | Vote:  

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[this grouping of comments in red are posted on the Cornwall Standard Freeholder website in response to 22 February 2008 article Woman: Dunlop needs to follow in the footsteps of others who have bared it all on the stand] totally agree with this reporters report..It was Perry Dunlop that started this train rolling down the track and now he wants to jump off before it gets to any station leaving the ones that he brought onboard with him on their own depite the fact, as it has now comes out, that some of them didin't even have any ticket at all to be on that train and in fact now state that, under oath, that Dunlop gave them a fake ticket just to get them on board for whatever reason...He has to account for his actions and WHY witnesses are now recanting their statements who they now say were induced on them by Dunlop...No wonder why he doesn't want to show up, to be crucified?? not at all, but to get down down the the truth once for for all as to who is telling the truth..The others have now come forward, now it is his turn..Never thought that telling the truth, especially under oath, would be so hard to do, especially for a former police officer..good thing he is no longer on the force....     Reply | Report | Page Top Post #1 By Observer123, 3 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

People representing "Special Interest" will "spin" this story to no ends.   
THE point though is, the people of Cornwall, "the silent majority" KNOW the truth about EVERYTHING!! The "special interests" do not know the facts since 1993 and appear to be exploited by "people" with "special interests." AT "Divisional Court" in Toronto on January 20, 2008, Perry Dunlop testified he wanted to tell his story, including submitting his "Will Statement", which is a sworn statement of everything he know's. He suggested telling his story at the "Civic Complex" or under the "watch" of the Justices sitting at Divisional Court, but under NO circumstances, under the current conditions and with the lawyers at the Cornwall Public Inquiry. The people of Cornwall know the facts and why Perry feels this way. THIS is NOT a trial, with "accused" paedophiles, rapists or other "accused" being prosecuted. THIS is, what has become, a very controversial "Public Inquiry", where they are still discussing "Terms and References" and "The Mandate". WHY focus on PERRY, when a travesty is currently taking place at the Inquiry, in that Lawyers are trying to "erase" victim and alleged victim testimony from the "RECORD" forever and "end" the Inquiry. Are the "special interests" worried about Perry's statement that he will, "heal and teach"?
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What a bunch of garbage that SPEAK OUT spurts out...Giving a written statement without being allowed to cross examin the statement is completely ludicrous and that is what Dunlop has only accepted to do..how would you like someone to put in writing something accusing YOU of doing something and then running away without YOU having the chance to challenege the allegations..our judicial system is completely based on being allowed to face your accuser and having the opportunity defending yourself without the accuser hiding behind the clothe of only a written statement (except in death) with no examination of its contents...It is obvious these are family members running to the aid of Dunlop so it is understandable that they are biased..Like a mother with blinders on running to defend her child to the bitter end without accepting the fact that her son did indeed do something wrong..shame shame shame..      Reply | Report | Page Top Post #3 By Observer123, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

perry testifying will not do thing because the lawyers will just tear apart anything he says and turn it on him as if he made it all up well folks it did happen no matter how certain people want it all to disappear children were molested and abused by many important and high up people in the community doesn't the fact that the lawyers want to exclude certain witnesses testimony show how desperate they are to make this all go away just like when children were abused at the former boys reform school in Alfred no one believed the children in fact all the perpetrators and molestors were so old that they were not even fit to stand trial this is not fiction this is reality and the sooner people see that it is possible it happened the sooner we can really prosecute the pedophiles why is it that the pedophiles always have the best lawyers money can buy and the victim is left to fend for themselves this crap makes me so angry justice my butt     Reply | Report | Page Top Post #4 By Dodger, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

Well Observer 123 i am certainly not a family member of Mr. Dunlops let alone his mother with blinders. What I am is a mother of 3 children scared as hell that pedophiles are running loose. Do you have children of your own? Reply | Report | Page Top Post #5 By Laurie J, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

For the record I SUPPORT MR. DUNLOP 100%Reply | Report | Page Top Post #6 By Laurie J, 2 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

My my; isn't "Observer123" very upset with me. I am a true believer of the "RULE OF LAW", however, it is my opinion, anyone who has followed this story since 1993 or who has in fact experienced this story since 1993 or before, believe the "RULE of LAW" and the "execution" of it, has been misinterpreted and corrupted.  
YOU have an opinion and so do I and everyone else. THANKFULLY, many Cornwall citizen's are starting to "speak out"! I hope they CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT, because, I know, Cornwall Citizen's know "the facts".
AM I going to "convince" you to believe my "opinion" or will you convince me to believe yours, I think not. HOWEVER, based only on my "experiences" while living and working in Cornwall, I believe your "bully-like", authoritative demeanour, was typical, of how "opposition" was "stepped on" and suppressed; exactly why MANY people refuse to "come forward." NOW, I hope, "citizens" will begin to "take back their beautiful City."
   
For some reason, you feel you must attempt to demean me or categorize me, as a Dunlop family member or that I don't believe in the "RULE of LAW." Very sad, but typical. Desperation and fear? But of what?
    
NOW, citizen's are beginning to "speak out" about the truth, in a forum where they feel comfortable and safe. It appears the "spin", Commission Counsel, Inquiry lawyers and the "parties", IS NOT WORKING. THE truth cannot be "suppressed" forever!!
       "Observer123", I suppose you and some others, would love to throw Dunlop into the "ring" with Callaghan, Neville, Sherriff-Scott etc. ALL we have to do is "look at the facts", as they have unfolded at the "Inquiry" and review what we already know. BELIEVE me, many people have serious questions about the proceedings at the "Inquiry". ANYONE, with exception to "the accused" would be fools to enter the "ring". BUT here is the point, you write and imply, Perry Dunlop is an accuser. You write about "facing your accuser". AM I to assume, you believe PERRY DUNLOP is "the accuser" in this WHOLE affair? JUST INCREDIBLE!! THE PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH. Observer123, I suggest you re-group. WHAT is your "special interest?"  
I am not a Dunlop family member. I lived and worked in Cornwall from 1988 to 2000 and I have very positive interactions with many Cornwall citizens, to this day. I have no fear, I believe in truth. I know, Cornwall citizens know the truth and they are beginning to "speak-out". GO ahead, call me names, demean me, call me an outsider, liar, whatever, but I know, the "people" know!!
   
James P. Bateman
Kitchener, Ontario

 Sure Perry got the ball rolling and by the sounds of it, it is more than anybody else did while these high profile perverts had their way with children. I give Perry all the respect in the world as just by reading all off this I can get an idea of what he has lost, his hometown, his career, law fees, relocating and not to mention all the emotional stress this has caused on him and his familly. Until people are in his shoes they have no right to convict him of any wrong doing, as a matter of fact he was the only person brave enough to do the right thing. Also Perry is proving a point that the law system has to change in this country, I don't know the answer but I do know that pedophiles should be in jail...not Perry Dunlop! And shame on anyone sitting at home reading the paper or watching the news and saying Perry should testify having absolutely no idea what he's going through or has already gone through. Good for you Perry as you are a hero to me and I'm sure a hero to the victims who through you have started their healing process and have made this issue public.     Reply | Report | Page Top Post #8 By Cope, 2 hours ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

"our judicial system is completely based on being allowed to face your accuser and having the opportunity defending yourself without the accuser hiding behind the clothe of only a written statement (except in death) with no examination of its contents"   
Cornwall Public Inquiry is not a criminal trial. People against whom allegations were made and collected by Perry Dunlop are not charged with any crimes. If and when they get charged and face time in jail, than and only than their lawyers should be allowed to cross-examine their accusers, their victims, witnesses and police that conducted investigation but not before.
This whole Inquiry is a sham as it does not have a mandate to assign criminal responsibility but it uses all the coercive tools of criminal trial. In that sense criminals in charge immune from prosecution have managed to put victims, witnesses and police that investigated these crimes on trial.Even if there was no organised pedophile ring operating in Cornwall by the look of things there seems to be well organised ring of pedophile protectors in charge of Cornwall Public Inquiry.
     Reply | Report | Page Top Post #9 By karol, 1 hour ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

YOU got it "karol"Reply | Report | Page Top Post #10 By James "SPEAK OUT", 1 hour ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

to me perry and helen were used by some of these victims.most victims couldn't get the help they were looking for throught our police forces.i'm sure the victims gave statments to the police before talking to perry.as far as i'm concerned its the good people of cornwall and surroundings that push to have the inquirey.but some people seem to think this was all perrys idea.this inquirey is not about perry dunlop or helen or any person who was not a victim or an acussed or working for any of the agencys involved.to me perry did nothing wrong and shouldn;t be in jail.i couldn,t care less what perry had to say even if he wanted to testify.so let perry go and stick ron leroux in jail were he belongs with his bird brain excuse why he pergerd him self for all these years.lets hear what the acussed people have to say on the stand and if they refuse to talk lock them up.this is what the people have been waiting for not perry    Reply | Report | Page Top Post #11 By luckyred, 1 hour ago | 1 Votes | Vote:

Shame of Engelman and Glaude for allowing things to get to this point. You both have lost my respect and you show yourselves up to not have a shred of decency for what you have set in motion. I am soooo disappointed that Dunlop is now behind bars and the pedofiles took to long to get their day in court, so they walked away scottfree. Shame, shame double shame!     Reply | Report | Page Top Post #12 By ezbutton, 32 mins ago | 1 Vote

Many have commented that in giving testimony it is not enough to read a statement . Englemann is quoted as saying this is the antithesis of testifying. I didn't hear him object when one of the witnesses from the parole office was given explicit permission by Glaude to stick to only the written record. She forgot everything that was not down on the written record. Why not let Perry Dunlop out of jail to return to his family in BC and some volunteer could read up on every scrap of paper he has ever written in the files at the inquiry and take his place as the witness. If these terms are available to others why is Perry refused when he offers to read into the record his will state which he spent months writing when the events were fresh in his mind. Better yet let the lawyers have a meeting and write up one of their famous ode's to summarize Perry's testimony from the record. Glaude and Englemann have allowed this for other witnesses, why not for Perry. He has suffered enough already. Glaude should have stuck to his original plan when he said: " It is essential for the success of this inquiry that people come forward free from any undue influence promise or threat. " I couldn't say it any better myself and I would hope that Glaude would listen to his own wise words. Perry is not a law breaker but he is not up for facing a huge panel of lawyers where all the firepower is arrayed against him. If this were an inquiry that is really seeking the truth I would like to hear an answer to the final question which Gary Guzzo added to the list of questions. Why did the government that called this public inquiry make a central and relevant document in their files totally secret. These government files should all be public with victims names redacted if the victims request that but all the rest should be public. We should also have Former Premier Harris there to tell us why he was so opposed to the inquiry. There are lots of witnesses who have said nothing so why hash over the story of Perry Dunlop which is all in the files anyway. He has testified endlessly already. Leave him alone. He has suffered enough. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #13 By FreePerry, 9 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote:

I am part of the quiet majority that cannot believe what is happening..not a family member either. I would like to know where are those accused of being pedophiles? Would they not like to face their accusers? How about a court order for them to testify? If Perry is making this up why are there so many victims telling their story, what about an illegal settlement, did he make that up to? Does the powers to be really think that people are that stupid? I can clearly see what is happening and feel sick!! Perry is what I consider a true cop. If my child was in danger it is him that I would want and trust; someone who would not sell their soul to a "secret boy's club". You can't blame Perry for not wanting to testify after the inconsistencies and downright malicious actions that have taken place during this inquiry...scarey stuff to say the least. I wish Perry all the best and support him fully..he has so much courage to stand against so many enemies. I still can't believe that he is in jail while those who are guilty of such horrific crimes done to young boys walk free. Reply | Report | Page Top Post #14 By blackandwhite, 8 hours ago | 0 Votes | Vote: 

All this cross examine bs is driving me nuts...first of all you have to do something wrong to be cross-examined Perry did nothing wrong! If Perry were to testify he'd probably be pushed so hard that he either has a breakdown or snaps which he just might do because of his frustration level and his love of children. He as already reported all he knows and that should be enough, now move on to the problem here already..the pedophiles. Even if Perry falsly accused anyone (which I'm sure he didn't) let them clear their name by blowing this thing wide open and we can find out who the guilty ones are here. As long as one child is saved it is worth it...this has to be stopped so we can break the cycle and have our children safe...bottom line at any expense, they are our future and they deserve the best opertunity possible in life....Way to go Perry and if more people would stand up for what they believe in this world would be a safer place.Post #15 By Cope, ……………………………………………………………19 February 2008  Letter To Editor Vitoria Times Colonist [re Former Police Oficer arrested in Duncan]

I was at the support rally for Perry Dunlop that Bill Cleverly so
"uncleverly" referred to as being "circus-like", "bizarre" and even "odd".
What it was in fact, was a gathering of friends and supporters of a good man
and decorated police officer who put himself and his family in harms way to
expose a serious pedophile threat to children in Cornwall Ontario.
How many of us would have had the moral and ethical courage to do what Perry
Dunlop has done?
Shame on you Mr. Cleverly if you think that this was in any way "bizarre",
"odd" and "circus like".
Everyone can read about this miscarriage of justice on www.theinquiry.caRob Lapsley ……………………………………………………………………Smurf209  Posted on youtube (Perry Dunlop arrest videoCanada is a haven for pedephiles. This is a good example of what happens when you try and stop them in Canada. What an embarassment.

I am surprised Canada hasnt fought for those 2 pedophiles in Thailand to be returned and serve NO time here.  …………………………………………………………………………………………
jenjarvo  Posted on youtube (Perry Dunlop arrest video) This makes me sick ! I can't believe this HERO is being treated this way !
He is a wonderful man , and the justice system is again at fault, god bless Him and Helen, Cornwall lost a great deal when they moved and hopefully they will get through this and the real criminals will be brought to justice ! 
   

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I have never been so appalled with the justice system as I am now. I can't believe that Perry Dunlop and his family, having been through so much after he brought to light the corruption in our community through Project Truth, that has blackened our community for so many years, is being unfairly treated by our justice system. He gave up a career as a very efficient police officer to move his family as far away as he could, to protect them from harm. And now he is being treated like a criminal because he wouldn't testify to a situation that has become a circus to our justice system. For a man to protect children from being sexually abuse, and to bring it open to the officials of our community, he should be praised for his efforts, not condemned by the whole of the Canadian Justice system. It certainly doesn't shed a good light on our country or our justice system. And why, if he's not a flight risk, would such a man be handcuffed to appear in court, and why would such a good man be serving any time behind bars for something that could clean up a very bad situation. And why, can't he be out of jail during these hearings instead of serving behind bars? Is it because he has so many supporters behind him? And why would the inquiry lawyers be asking for six months of jail time? Are they afraid of the truth coming out? Or, are they covering up for some of the pedophiles that still remain ALIVE in our community?


If these allegations weren't truthful then why have so many Catholic priests been charged as accomplices to this pedophile ring, and why did the Catholic Church payoff one of the victims to keep silent? I am a true Catholic and have no mercy for any of the pedophiles that abused these young boys.


Mr. & Mrs. Gerald Davis

I hope that the Provincial Government will take measures to allow this man to return to his family without further discrimination to him or his family. I think it's time that the Provincial Government steps in and takes measures to alleviate any more harm to this poor man and his family.

This situation has become completely out of hand and I feel I speak for our entire community in this matter.

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Post #8 By mrriverdale, 2 days ago | 2 Votes | Vote:


Pedophiles beware because if they ever find any of yous guilty all i have to say is jail is not a pretty place and let me tell ya you are going to be treated like the little ***es that yous are and hopefuly yous never make it to PC.

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Post #9 By boone, 2 days ago | 2 Votes | Vote:


 who said no one would be presured or made to testify if they choose not to.i think this statement was put in by that wiesel claude what was this for to keep the peophilies out of the inquirey.people the commisioner of this inquirey can not be belived.he as shown this side of him more that once.i think he should be locked up.

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Post #10 By luckyred, 2 days ago | 1 Vote   

   

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18 February 2008

[Posted as a comment on Cornwall Standard Freeholder website]

Fellow posters, I have the privilege of calling Perry friend. We attended the same school and talked a couple times over beers as he entertained and local pubs. However writing these posts on the Osprey tabloid will do nothing to support him. Actions speak louder then words. Someone must come up with an alternate solution.

Perry refuses to partake in a system he does not believe in and is prosecuted for it. That is democracy at it’s best.

What about the politician that was going to present these issues in the house, he had evidence and information which somehow was modified. Is he going to jail for tampering with evidence, what about Adams he refused to listen to victims and with held information for years…will these people see their day?

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